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SINGH SAHIB JATHEDAR BHAI RAM SINGH JI, is the true JATHEDAR of DAMDAMI TAKSAL. SINGH SAHIB is the nephew of SANT KARTAR SINGH JI KHALSA. SINGH SAHIB JATHEDAR BHAI RAM SINGH JI became SHUDH AKHAND PATHI when he was 11 years old, and he started doing GURBANI KATHA when he was just 14 years old. HE has been a true sevadar of DAMDAMI TAKSAL and KHALSA PANTH as well.

History is very unforgiving, and it always repeats itself. Just as SANT KARTAR SINGH JI KHALSA left BHINDER KALAN for MEHTA CHOWK, SINGH SAHIB has also left MEHTA CHOWK for SANGRAI instead of inviting confrontation with his own brethren. That's not all, even though SANT GURBACHAN SINGH JI had announced his decision to appoint SANT KARTAR SINGH JI KHALSA, still SANT GURBACHAN SINGH JI'S family supported GIANI MOHAN SINGH JI. In a similar fashion, SANT JARNAIL SINGH JI'S family (eg. the mole called JASBIR (SARKARI) SINGH RODE) are openly opposing SINGH SAHIB BHAI RAM SINGH JI.

Please take few minutes to read the following article.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20041228/punjab1.htm

Dhumma’s nomination causes split in Damdami Taksal

Varinder Walia

Tribune News Service

Chowk Mehta (Amritsar), December 27

The 300-year-old Sikh seminary — Damdami Taksal — witnessed a split once again following the nomination of Baba Harnam Singh Dhumma (36), a US citizen, as the successor of Baba Thakur Singh, six days before Baba Thakur Singh’s antim ardas.

Baba Dhumma had settled in the USA in early nineties when militancy in Punjab was at its peak.

Baba Ram Singh, a former priest of Golden Temple, however, claimed that he was the “real Jathedar”, as Baba Thakur Singh himself had given him “Dastar” (turban) and nominated him as the 15th Jathedar of the Taksal on June 17 last year in the USA. Baba Ram Singh and family members of Sant Kartar Singh Bhinderanwale (predecessor of Sant Jarnail Bhinderanwale), including Bhai Manjit Singh and Bhai Tarlochan Singh, president All-India Sikh Students Federation, openly supported Baba Ram Singh. They said a parallel antim ardas would be held at Gurshabad Parkash Gurdwara, at Sangrai village, Batala, instead of Chowk Mehta, as they don’t want any confrontation.

The gurdwara would be the parallel headquarters of the breakaway group of the Taksal. The ideological difference between both would be that the breakaway group believed that Sant Bhinderanwale had died in Operation Bluestar, as stated by Akal Takht and the SGPC, while the Taksal (Chowk Mehta) would continue to keep the myth of Baba Thakur Singh that Sant Bhinderanwale was still alive for some more time.

The split in Damdami Taksal has come after 35 years. Earlier, after the death of Sant Gurbachan Singh, his successor Sant Kartar Singh had shifted from the actual headquarters — Bhindera to Chowk Mehta in 1969. Though Sant Mohan Singh was given “Dastar” by the family of Sant Gurbachan Singh, the Chowk Mehta became the mainstream Taksal. Baba Ram Singh and his supporters claim that Gurdwara Gurshabad would become “real headquarters” of Damdami Taksal as in the past.

He showed pictures of Baba Thakur Singh presenting “Dastar” and his signed statement. The eyewitness to this ceremony when “Dastar” was presented to Baba Ram Singh in the USA, including Baba Dharm Singh, Bhai Mukhtiyar Singh and Raagi Sarwan Singh (all from USA) who had specially flown here, said that Baba Thakur Singh had never backed out from his decision. They alleged that certain Taksal leaders, having vested interests, had held Baba Thakur Singh in “captivity” and spread a rumour that he (Bhai Ram Singh) was never nominated as his successor .

The decision to nominate Baba Harnam Singh as successor of Baba Thakur Singh, even before the antim ardas has raised many eyebrows. Sources pointed out that this step had to be taken in the wake of moves of certain lobbies. Baba Ram Singh and his supporters alleged that the “back door” nomination of Baba Harnam Singh had created suspicion in the minds of Sikh Sangat, as no Sikh institution was taken into confidence.

Today, “Dastar” was given to Baba Harnam Singh Dhumma by the “five beloved ones” including Bhai Jaswant Singh, Bhai Mal Singh — both priests of Golden Temple, Bhai Mohkam Singh, Bhai Gurdip Singh and Bhai Gurjit Singh Jagadhri. Bhai Jasbir Singh Rode, a former Jathedar of Akal Takht was also present on the occasion.

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SINGH SAHIB JATHEDAR BHAI RAM SINGH JI, is the true JATHEDAR of DAMDAMI TAKSAL. SINGH SAHIB is the nephew of SANT KARTAR SINGH JI KHALSA. SINGH SAHIB JATHEDAR BHAI RAM SINGH JI became SHUDH AKHAND PATHI when he was 11 years old, and he started doing GURBANI KATHA when he was just 14 years old. HE has been a true sevadar of DAMDAMI TAKSAL and KHALSA PANTH as well.

History is very unforgiving, and it always repeats itself. Just as SANT KARTAR SINGH JI KHALSA left BHINDER KALAN for MEHTA CHOWK, SINGH SAHIB has also left MEHTA CHOWK for SANGRAI instead of inviting confrontation with his own brethren. That's not all, even though SANT GURBACHAN SINGH JI had announced his decision to appoint SANT KARTAR SINGH JI KHALSA, still SANT GURBACHAN SINGH JI'S family supported GIANI MOHAN SINGH JI. In a similar fashion, SANT JARNAIL SINGH JI'S family (eg. the mole called JASBIR (SARKARI) SINGH RODE) are openly opposing SINGH SAHIB BHAI RAM SINGH JI.

Please take few minutes to read the following article.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20041228/punjab1.htm

Dhumma’s nomination causes split in Damdami Taksal

Varinder Walia

Tribune News Service

Chowk Mehta (Amritsar), December 27

The 300-year-old Sikh seminary — Damdami Taksal — witnessed a split once again following the nomination of Baba Harnam Singh Dhumma (36), a US citizen, as the successor of Baba Thakur Singh, six days before Baba Thakur Singh’s antim ardas.

Baba Dhumma had settled in the USA in early nineties when militancy in Punjab was at its peak.

Baba Ram Singh, a former priest of Golden Temple, however, claimed that he was the “real Jathedar”, as Baba Thakur Singh himself had given him “Dastar” (turban) and nominated him as the 15th Jathedar of the Taksal on June 17 last year in the USA. Baba Ram Singh and family members of Sant Kartar Singh Bhinderanwale (predecessor of Sant Jarnail Bhinderanwale), including Bhai Manjit Singh and Bhai Tarlochan Singh, president All-India Sikh Students Federation, openly supported Baba Ram Singh. They said a parallel antim ardas would be held at Gurshabad Parkash Gurdwara, at Sangrai village, Batala, instead of Chowk Mehta, as they don’t want any confrontation.

The gurdwara would be the parallel headquarters of the breakaway group of the Taksal. The ideological difference between both would be that the breakaway group believed that Sant Bhinderanwale had died in Operation Bluestar, as stated by Akal Takht and the SGPC, while the Taksal (Chowk Mehta) would continue to keep the myth of Baba Thakur Singh that Sant Bhinderanwale was still alive for some more time.

The split in Damdami Taksal has come after 35 years. Earlier, after the death of Sant Gurbachan Singh, his successor Sant Kartar Singh had shifted from the actual headquarters — Bhindera to Chowk Mehta in 1969. Though Sant Mohan Singh was given “Dastar” by the family of Sant Gurbachan Singh, the Chowk Mehta became the mainstream Taksal. Baba Ram Singh and his supporters claim that Gurdwara Gurshabad would become “real headquarters” of Damdami Taksal as in the past.

He showed pictures of Baba Thakur Singh presenting “Dastar” and his signed statement. The eyewitness to this ceremony when “Dastar” was presented to Baba Ram Singh in the USA, including Baba Dharm Singh, Bhai Mukhtiyar Singh and Raagi Sarwan Singh (all from USA) who had specially flown here, said that Baba Thakur Singh had never backed out from his decision. They alleged that certain Taksal leaders, having vested interests, had held Baba Thakur Singh in “captivity” and spread a rumour that he (Bhai Ram Singh) was never nominated as his successor .

The decision to nominate Baba Harnam Singh as successor of Baba Thakur Singh, even before the antim ardas has raised many eyebrows. Sources pointed out that this step had to be taken in the wake of moves of certain lobbies. Baba Ram Singh and his supporters alleged that the “back door” nomination of Baba Harnam Singh had created suspicion in the minds of Sikh Sangat, as no Sikh institution was taken into confidence.

Today, “Dastar” was given to Baba Harnam Singh Dhumma by the “five beloved ones” including Bhai Jaswant Singh, Bhai Mal Singh — both priests of Golden Temple, Bhai Mohkam Singh, Bhai Gurdip Singh and Bhai Gurjit Singh Jagadhri. Bhai Jasbir Singh Rode, a former Jathedar of Akal Takht was also present on the occasion.

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im sorry if this offends u or anyone, but please can you tell me what you are getting out of posting these messages? what are you trying to improve? why does it effect you if others think another khalsa is an acting / Jathedar, or this khalsa is acting / jathedar??

Could someone please tell me why it is important to know whose a jathedar and whose not?

Cos the way i see it.. its jst promotin the division in the taksal academy/prospect students..

What i reckon (corerct me if im wrong, im jst a papi, but) dont u think we should start accepting we are the children of one group, which is khalsa panth, and our leader is Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji maharaj, instead of comapring ourselves, ur from this jatha, im from this jatha...

and THEN even if we still gna consider ourselves as part of "jatheh" AND say oh, our side of the jatha is better than urs, and ours is the true jathedar, and the other one is wack.. then tell me Where are we gna get???

lets Look at ourselves, and look at others... and think wa impact this is making on people who are trying to get into sikhi... like persoonally, the last few months for me personally hav bin wicked man, im proper gettin into sikhi, and im lovin every second of it, but these lil things, about following others and sections in jatheh confuse me.... cos should we be followin Guru ji??

oh i dunno....

pul chuk maaf..

i jst think, these thinks dont prove much but put people off and way from sikhi...

nx time lets try to post somthin that we can all benefit from, like childhood stories of our guru's perhaps....

this aint no low blow to the khalsa who posted this personally, its 2 everyone..

wjkk wjkf

ya lil bro, Randeep.

hum nehi chungeh, buraa nehi koi

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s s Jhamka    0

vaheguru ji ka khalsa

vaheguru ji ki fateh

soon there will be videos off the socalled dastar bandi of ram singh at tracey USA and of ram singh asking for forgiveness from Baba ji STATING that he NEVER called himself the 15th Jathadar off the Taksaal. how come if ram singh got dastar in 2003 he then got another dastar bandi when Baba ji went to Sachkand?? wow he got 2 dastarbandi?? bit weired?????

Baba Ji has stated this when he was here with us that Sant Ji is the 14th Jathadar and no one can claim the Dastar of the Taksaal. ram singh calls himself 15th Jathadar and says Sant Ji is shaheed totally going against Baba jis Hukam.

once ppl have seen the videos then hopefully all this debate will end and those ppl who have fallen for the lies of ram singh will go and see him and give him a few chitter LOL.gif

sukdev

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Kumi2    0

gurfateh ji

correct me if i am wrong but wasnt it ram singh who himself that said that if he ever became 15th jathadar of damdami taksali that he should get krod and then as soon as baba ji pass away he goes biggin himself say that baba ji gave hime that dastar of taksal, baba ji them self said that sant ji has got the dastar of taksal so they cant give it to ne one the dastar when they havent got it themself

bol jok marf karni

gurfateh ji

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manni007    0

POST THSI IN GENERLA SECTION AS A NEW TOPIC - URGENT

PAKISTAN SELLING 150 ACRES OF GURDWARA LAND FOR MILITARY PURPOSES IN LAHORE. WHAT NEXT START SELLING PARTS OF PANJA SAHIB?

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/south-asia/india-to-raise-gurdwara-land-transfer-with-pakistan-krishna_100291189.html

New Delhi, Dec 18 (IANS) India will take up with Pakistan the reported transfer of 150 acres of gurdwara land in Lahore for a military housing project, External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna said Friday.

“We will certainly take it up with the concerned authorities in Pakistan,” Krishna said in the Rajya Sabha after S.S. Ahluwalia of the Bharatiya Janata Party raised the issue during Zero Hour.

“The member has raised a very important issue. I share his concern and the concern of the house,” Krishna added.

Protesting against the Pakistani government’s move, Ahluwalia said: “Next they will sell Panja Sahib (one of the few Sikh gurdwaras in Pakistan), where there is still the hand imprint of first Sikh guru Guru Nanak.”

“The government should summon the Pakistani ambassador and take a commitment that the property of minorities like Sikh, Hindus and Sindhis will be protected

More at : India to raise gurdwara land transfer with Pakistan: Krishna http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/south-asia/india-to-raise-gurdwara-land-transfer-with-pakistan-krishna_100291189.html#ixzz0fzVU7njB

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Baba Thakur Singh cleared any misconception/falsities about Baba Ram Singh being the next Jathedar. why he or his supporters insist on him being jathedar i dont know, but will recall a line from Sant-Sipahi Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale : " beware of those who display their leadership..." .

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