Jump to content

Dasam Duar


Recommended Posts

I came across this pangti in Gurbani which forms part of a shabad by Bhagat Kabeer Jee on Ang 1123 of the Guru Granth Sahib Jee relating to the Dasam Duar.

ngrI eykY nau drvwjy Dwvqu brij rhweI ]

There are nine gates to the one city of the body; restrain your mind from escaping through them.

iqRkutI CUtY dsvw dru KUl@Y qw mnu KIvw BweI ]3]

When the knot of the three qualities is untied, then the Tenth Gate opens up, and the mind is intoxicated, O Siblings of Destiny. ||3||

I would be grateful if the Sangat could let me know is meant by the three qualities which need to be untied before the Dasam Duar opens.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Fateh.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Its been 7 days no one as replied..

The nine enterences and exits in your body...2 eyes 2 ears 2 nostrils 1 mouth and for the male n female have the 2 in the gential area..we only decide to live in those..only opening the 10th can bring true control...

but the 3 qualities you wanted to know are to hear to see and to breathe...when we only live in those the 10th well be reveald..the bliss obtained is unexplainable....

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest KirtanLover

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

iqRkutI CUtY dsvw dru KUl@Y qw mnu KIvw BweI ]3]

when you rise above the worldly senses then the tenth door opens.Simple as that.

Literally, Trikuti means the point between the eyes symbolising the physical brain which is the organ where all worldly senses are communicated from various parts of the body.

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i agree there is something to do with a point btw your eyes.. but it doesnt represent the brain...the bhani as nothing to do with the brain...the tip of our nose when we concentrate lookin only there is the purest form of meditation...you seek to find him..this is where he'll reveal him self to you

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

ive noticed many these days, specially on sikhawarness.com talk about stuff like this

its very good gian

the human body is more complex than we know

but

as maharaj je dae sikh, we dont care where to concentrate or where this is

wats our goal

raj na chaou

mukath na chaou

man preet charan kamlarae

by the way,, maharaj je says we waste our lifes away on stuff like trikuti and three guns in bani, and dont actually find god this way

the way to find god is pyaar

not where hes in ure nose

bhula chuka maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest KirtanLover

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

the tip of our nose when we concentrate lookin only there is the purest form of meditation

As per my understanding, in sikhi there is no concept of trying to concentrate at a particular point as prevalent in the hindu's/yogi's

The following pangtee clarifies where the concentration should be

Duin mih iDAwnu iDAwn mih jwinAw gurmuiK AkQ khwnI ]3] (ang 878)

The form of meditation is Naam Jaap and when we totally get lost in the Naam Jaap and are oblivious to our surroundings (override wordly senses) then we enter the tenth gate as said by GuruSahibJi

nau drvwjy dsvY mukqw Anhd sbdu vjwvixAw ]3] Beyond the nine gates, the Tenth Gate is found, and liberation is obtained. The Unstruck Melody of the Shabad vibrates. ||3||(ang 109)

GuruSahibJi makes it crystal clear again in a different shabad

'font-family:GurbaniWebThick'>nau dr Twky Dwvqu rhwey ]

Those who close off the nine gates, and restrain the wandering mind,

dsvY inj Gir vwsw pwey ]

come to dwell in the Home of the Tenth Gate.

EQY Anhd sbd vjih idnu rwqI gurmqI sbdu suxwvixAw ]6]There, the Unstruck Melody of the Shabad vibrates day and night. Through the Guru's Teachings, the Shabad is heard. ||6|| (ang 124)

So i doubt it very much that we have to concentrate at the tip of the nose and definetely am sure that the purest form of meditation is as described in the pangtian from ang 124 of DhanDhanSiriGuruGranthSahibJiMaharaaj. ^_^

Coming back to the first pangtee, posted at the start, iqRkutI CUtY dsvw dru KUl@Y it says Trikuti Shutai, taking the word CUtY the punjabi meaning is to be freed from Trikuti or to lose Trikuti. I am not a very learned person but to me it makes sense that Trikuti refers to the wordly senses in which we are engrossed due to the nine doors. So when we overcome/get freedom from Trikuti we enter the 10th door where we get the eternal bliss.

Bhul Chuk Maaf, i have only tried, maybe i am wrong and would be very happy if some enlightened soul can make the above pangtian more clear.

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

i didnt wish to offend ne one at all...i have just told you from what i have expereinced my self...just remeber...the heavens he created and in the heavens he shall reveal him self ..its just not the staring at the tip of your noise that does every thing...meditate with ur heart while in this state...ones who truly give up there heart...he wont forsake them...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 12 years later...
On ‎12‎/‎15‎/‎2004 at 1:31 PM, Dhan Teri Sikhi said:

I came across this pangti in Gurbani which forms part of a shabad by Bhagat Kabeer Jee on Ang 1123 of the Guru Granth Sahib Jee relating to the Dasam Duar.

I would be grateful if the Sangat could let me know is meant by the three qualities which need to be untied before the Dasam Duar opens.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Fateh.

 

I know that this thread and post is about 13 years old, but it's never too late to answer the OP.

The reference quoted in OP is from ang 1123

ngrI eykY nau drvwjy Dwvqu brij rhweI ]

There are nine gates to the one city of the body; restrain your mind from escaping through them.

iqRkutI CUtY dsvw dru KUl@Y qw mnu KIvw BweI ]3]

When the knot of the three qualities is untied, then the Tenth Gate opens up, and the mind is intoxicated, O Siblings of Destiny. ||3||

 

ANSWER= The 3 qualities refers to the 3 modes or qualities of Maya. These are Satogun, Rajogun and Tamogun.

Bhagat Kabirji is referencing these 3 qualities in the pangti. When these 3(tre-gunn) are untied, then the 4th state/Chautha padh is attained via passage through Dasam Duar..

Some posts above have mentioned the 9 doors or Naun Darwajey. Now, these 9 doors have to be closed shut before the gupt,10th door/Dasam duar can be opened. The Dasam opens.and then the sevak's consciousness passes through this and leaves behind the Tre-gunn maya and enters the abode of the 4th dimension Chautha Padh.

 

Waheguru

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share

  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • yeh it's true, we shouldn't be lazy and need to learn jhatka shikaar. It doesn't help some of grew up in surrounding areas like Slough and Southall where everyone thought it was super bad for amrit dharis to eat meat, and they were following Sant babas and jathas, and instead the Singhs should have been normalising jhatka just like the recent world war soldiers did. We are trying to rectifiy this and khalsa should learn jhatka.  But I am just writing about bhog for those that are still learning rehit. As I explained, there are all these negative influences in the panth that talk against rehit, but this shouldn't deter us from taking khanda pahul, no matter what level of rehit we are!
    • How is it going to help? The link is of a Sikh hunter. Fine, but what good does that do the lazy Sikh who ate khulla maas in a restaurant? By the way, for the OP, yes, it's against rehit to eat khulla maas.
    • Yeah, Sikhs should do bhog of food they eat. But the point of bhog is to only do bhog of food which is fit to be presented to Maharaj. It's not maryada to do bhog of khulla maas and pretend it's OK to eat. It's not. Come on, bro, you should know better than to bring this Sakhi into it. Is this Sikh in the restaurant accompanied by Guru Gobind Singh ji? Is he fighting a dharam yudh? Or is he merely filling his belly with the nearest restaurant?  Please don't make a mockery of our puratan Singhs' sacrifices by comparing them to lazy Sikhs who eat khulla maas.
    • Seriously?? The Dhadi is trying to be cute. For those who didn't get it, he said: "Some say Maharaj killed bakras (goats). Some say he cut the heads of the Panj Piyaras. The truth is that they weren't goats. It was she-goats (ਬਕਰੀਆਂ). He jhatka'd she-goats. Not he-goats." Wow. This is possibly the stupidest thing I've ever heard in relation to Sikhi.
    • Instead of a 9 inch or larger kirpan, take a smaller kirpan and put it (without gatra) inside your smaller turban and tie the turban tightly. This keeps a kirpan on your person without interfering with the massage or alarming the masseuse. I'm not talking about a trinket but rather an actual small kirpan that fits in a sheath (you'll have to search to find one). As for ahem, "problems", you could get a male masseuse. I don't know where you are, but in most places there are professional masseuses who actually know what they are doing and can really relieve your muscle pains.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use