Why play Tabla and wear leather jackets?

[Guest learner singh]

Last post for you Gabroo Khalistan da!

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All those Gurmuksh were great soul and you are fighting for their wordly body which is just an illusion. Nothing can slander Gurmukhs and they are in sachkhand. You should work on becoming like them and work on sikh's destination which is siple to figure out.

Salvation to get to Sach Khand.

[Mkhalsa]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

Learner Singh.. it seems to me you are the one spreading hate. Its even worse that you do it in the guise of a 'learner' and that you act so nice but say such things that seem written to create fights and hatred.

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

[GABROO KHALISTAN DAH]

learner singh paji, i even apologized for being rude

but all u can do is slander and be a 2yr old, maybe you are i dont' knwo ur age? clear that for us

i'm not even a sikh stated that more then often...i dont' only say what i say here online but also in person to ne one ne where and i'm proud of it

no can u show us where i have twisted something.........DHUN BABA LEARNER SINGH JI

[Balait_da_Sher]

Why do we let people make "Tablas" and play it at Gurdwara Sahib because people are killing so many goats to make tablas, and it should be protested. Also, leather jackets are also made of animals skins. There are so much to mention but I think I made my point...

Whats your feedback?

Veer Learner this is what you say in one of ur posts after ur question.

We have no problem when we use Tabla of Goat's skin but we do have problem with Nihangs....

Now if we have no problem with Goat's Skin as a tabla then why post the question. However the question you posted was a good question but then you changed the topic to Nihangs.

Please lets not make every topic about Nihungs, cos then people are going to loose interest, when only two people argue about whether Nihungs are good or bad.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Guest learner singh]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

Learner Singh.. it seems to me you are the one spreading hate. Its even worse that you do it in the guise of a 'learner' and that you act so nice but say such things that seem written to create fights and hatred.

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

No Problem brother,

Everyone is allowed to post his views in democracy and in true sikh world so if you think so then please stick to it and I have no problem with it.

Whatever floats your boat.

[Guest learner singh]

Why do we let people make "Tablas" and play it at Gurdwara Sahib because people are killing so many goats to make tablas, and it should be protested.  Also, leather jackets are also made of animals skins.  There are so much to mention but I think I made my point...

Whats your feedback?

Veer Learner this is what you say in one of ur posts after ur question.

We have no problem when we use Tabla of Goat's skin but we do have problem with Nihangs....

Now if we have no problem with Goat's Skin as a tabla then why post the question. However the question you posted was a good question but then you changed the topic to Nihangs.

Please lets not make every topic about Nihungs, cos then people are going to loose interest, when only two people argue about whether Nihungs are good or bad.

Waheguroo Jee K

a Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

My whole intention if you try to see was to bring this point that stop useless allegation on everything we see are not contrary to our views and learn to have tolerance which is the true form of sikhism. Sarbat da bhala mangna....

We're just trying to make sikhism as Jainism, which is big insult to our gurus as we are changing the way our Gurus wanted us to be.

I appreciate your concern and I find you knowledgeable and techie of course.. :D

I just want to spread the universal message of our Gurus gave to world not all these jathas and orgs are trying to turn it into which is opposite to what our Gurus intention was because they were trying to give something which will have humbleness not strictness same as Whabis....

Sikhism in nutshell for everyone: Spirit of freedom, independence, leadership, fearlessness, positive thinking, honest earning, sharing with others, tithe (Daswandh), feeling of brotherhood and Commonwealth, Langar, Sangat and Pangat (the concept of social and spiritual equality), casteless society, bravery, hard work, enterprising nature, self respect, humbleness, Sewa, bowing before the Will of the Almighty (Bhana Mannana), optimism and euphoria (Charhdi Kala), to pray for the welfare the whole of the humanity (Sarbat Da Bhala Mangana) are gifts of Guru Sahib. But, Guru Sahib has given all this to those who live the life of a genuine Sikh. Guru Sahib said:

"Living a life according to the Sikh philosophy is loved by me and not the physical appearance of a Sikh". (Rahit piari mujh ko Sikh piara nahen).

[Sarbloh Soulja]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

conversations like these dont go nowhere :D @