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Again the point i am stressing its ok for sikh human right activist to protest against rajoana death penalty or his over spending in jail but to have federal leader of canada who have in the past raised this issue of rajoana death penalty with india knowing fully rajoana history and bombing of cm which also killed 13 other people it open itself to all kind of self inflicted wounds-bad pr optics, all kind of criticism, all kind of narratives in journalist world.

 

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2 hours ago, BhForce said:

3) How did Atwal get a visa to India? Has any "journalist" other than MacDonald (like Terry M or Jonathan Kay) been curious as to this question? If not, it shows their agenda.

Everyone is wondering the same thing, recently conservatives will put a motion to summon cdn pm national security advisor to breif, hope csis intelligence gathering report on him and raw using this guy as pawn/ sabotaging CANADIAN PM trip to comes out.!!

For Canadian pm - justin trudeau and his actual secretary gerald butts -  its a catch 22 suitation, he wants the whole jaspal controversy goes away asap, so its doesn't become media witch haunt onto election issue exploited by conservatives , he is been advised by CSIS - National security advisor about atwal past history dealing with RAW there. But the issue PMO he cannot say anything directly as it will screw diplomacy with india and very well can play in next federal election where indians via conservative cdn media and conservatives- will then take leverage kite a potential 28 billion dollar deal - thousands of jobs creation in canada election promise.

Public safety minister weeks ago, they have rejected conservatives motion for public hearing of his national security advisor but will allow the breifing  to only mps as  its highly confendial csis material on this guy and raw only to cdn mps in house of common prior to that which they have to take oath -they cannot leak to the media and to public. Look around sensitivity around this issue, i am assuming its pretty high detailed intelligence report on raw sabotaging cdn sikhs supporting cdn political parties.

 

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Either this Athwal character was and still is a Indian government R&AW agent or a useful patsy fool bumbling baffon who was caught up in a clever Indian plot to malign Prime minister Justin Trudeu, Canadian Sikh politicians and canadian Sikhs in general.

Either way his appearance in Sikh circles needs further research.... from what i gathered reading up....he wasnt known in the wider Sikh community and mysteriously he is in the headlines now?? very strange he is being labeled a Sikh extremist? .

Basically from what I can read into the situation is that atwal was actual an Indian agent who was conveniently black listed by the Indian govt back in 80s to prevent him being deported to india on grounds of human rights. Now they need him again but in a different way so they removed him from black list to let him come to india and they turned on him and used him to malign Canadian Sikhs. To get revenge and one over the Sikhs for denying Indian govt agents into gurdwara's worldwide for their interference in Sikh religious affairs.

We need to remember Indian government intelligence agencies are far too clever for the Low IQ Sikh leadership in the west and india.

Corrupt Indian brahmin establishment plans things decades ahead like chess pieces, so they had their agents bring down the air india plane in 1985 and blamed khalistani's for it , blamed a weird group called a unknown dashmesh regiment (probably formed by R&AW indian agents) blamed talwinder singh parmer who allegedly and mysteriously was killed in 1992 by Indians but no proof of his death? BKI was formed by parmer and a mysterious guy who worked for canadian intelligence service CSIS it was revealed in the air india trials public enquiry in 2006.

The plot just thickens..... it is very interesting because it exposes not just these alleged 1980s "Sikh extremists" but also the roles of canadian and Indian intelligence agencies of the era and how they funded and colluded with each other in very deadly outcomes to blame the canadian Sikh community and oppress them from speaking out about the murderous campaigns of the Indian's.

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If anyone did research into the R&AW they would realise it was formed in late 1960s by Indian prime minister sardar patel to monitor, disrupt and subvert the political and religious activities of Sikh leadership in punjab who was calling for end to discrimination and greater rights for a Sikhs in their own state of punjab (as was promised to the leadership by nehru in 1946)

It was reported in the newspapers of the time that In 1980s pre-operation blue star the R&AW  also shipped arms into the darbar sahib complex Golden Temple via huge truck conveys and the police nor army not IB (intelligence bueru) stop them. Why was that? Why was they not stopping their alleged enemy Khalistani anti-nationalists get armed to the teeth? Very strange

It was also reported that the R&AW shipped weapons to their pakistani christian agents who in turn gave them to actual Sikh separatists who had crossed the border and these pakistani christian R&AW agents then gave the locations of these separatists so that the R&AW could kill them within pakistani punjab and in Indian punjab.

The R&AW essentially is a highly anti-sikh outfit it is a terrorist outfit and it does need to be exposed to the wider world what it has been involved in.

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1 hour ago, genie said:

If anyone did research into the R&AW they would realise it was formed in late 1960s by Indian prime minister sardar patel to monitor, disrupt and subvert the political and religious activities of Sikh leadership in punjab who was calling for end to discrimination and greater rights for a Sikhs in their own state of punjab (as was promised to the leadership by nehru in 1946)

It was reported in the newspapers of the time that In 1980s pre-operation blue star the R&AW  also shipped arms into the darbar sahib complex Golden Temple via huge truck conveys and the police nor army not IB (intelligence bueru) stop them. Why was that? Why was they not stopping their alleged enemy Khalistani anti-nationalists get armed to the teeth? Very strange

It was also reported that the R&AW shipped weapons to their pakistani christian agents who in turn gave them to actual Sikh separatists who had crossed the border and these pakistani christian R&AW agents then gave the locations of these separatists so that the R&AW could kill them within pakistani punjab and in Indian punjab.

The R&AW essentially is a highly anti-sikh outfit it is a terrorist outfit and it does need to be exposed to the wider world what it has been involved in.

Sardar Patel?He was never prime minister.

I am sure he died way before the 1960s 

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36 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Sardar Patel?He was never prime minister.

I am sure he died way before the 1960s 

yes your right, ah forgot to type in "deputy" prime minister

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18 minutes ago, genie said:

yes your right, ah forgot to type in "deputy" prime minister

Patel died in 1950.

RAW was established in 1968. 

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Patel died in 1950.

RAW was established in 1968. 

Your right. From memory in book I had read they had stated nehru, sardar patel and lal bahadur shastri were influential in forming the R&AW but it was actually under Indira gandhi's watch during the late 1960s that it was actually created and acknowledged to exist.

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After number of misteps-back peddling, one would think the-rookie jagmeet singh be careful, he just demoted a very senior ndp mp last week while chilling out at juno awards with his wife, at this point his caucus seems divided, he better bring unity to his caucus soon otherwise he is gone from party. FYI Federal party just need 57% disapproval/approval (i m not sure which one comes first)  votes then next ndp convention is held for next leader.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ndp-mp-criticizes-leader-singhs-punishment-of-fellow-new-democrat/?click=sf_globefb

Things doesn't look good for him, i'be surprised if he last until summer let alone next federal election. Dumping him it will be bad news for ndp and even more bad news for conservatives as they no longer can splits votes in gta and have majority in next election

Anyway whatever outcome be, he be good example/case study for future political aspirant sikhs  what not to do, what is good and bad optics, how to prevent from self inflicted wounds.

I am sorry can't blame racism for this one, media also gave him fair chance as listed in orginal post, also ndp is super far left, he is given fair chance like any Canadian would have in true canadian democracy and he is about to blow this one way.!

Lets cross fingers.

 

 

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He reversed the decision of demoting his mp early this week, now he is bit in calm waters with his caucus and has their support along with senior members. Here are some detailed good assessment/advise in article by one of very senior global journalist - john ibbiston-article endorsed by andrew cohe-who is also very senior journalist in journalist world. FYI they are both conservatives they may have underlining vested interest to get jagmeet singh up to speed to split ndp/liberal votes.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-jagmeet-singh-may-have-stumbled-but-dont-count-him-out-just-yet/?cmpid=rss&click=sf_globe

 

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