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You guys are being played for fools if you believe in Brexit etc. Its just a facade.

Only people that are brainwashed by TV,media etc talk about such non-topics. 

Don't waste your time listening to all this rubbish. Just live your lives and do not care for all these false shows/manufactured topics. 

Much like how one wouldn't take Hollywood movies seriously, why do you think that the news is any different?

That's how foolish this is.

 

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6 hours ago, superdupersingh said:

You guys are being played for fools if you believe in Brexit etc. Its just a facade.

Only people that are brainwashed by TV,media etc talk about such non-topics. 

Don't waste your time listening to all this rubbish. Just live your lives and do not care for all these false shows/manufactured topics. 

The reason people talk about these topics are because they have real impact on people's lives.

If a plane flies into the NYC World Trade Center towers in a Hollywood creation, it has no effect. But when it did so for real, real Sikhs died in the backlash. That was not "false", bro. Also not false was 6 of our brothers dying in the attack on the Gurdwara in Wisconsin.

Brexit will have a real impact on people's lives in Britain, which includes us or our brothers living in the UK.

It's a matter of vital importance because if the UK remains in the EU, it could be forced to accept huge numbers of "refugees" just like the Eastern European countries are being forced to. If that happens, we will be living in a quasi-Islamic state in Britain because when the number of Muslims in a country reaches a threshold level, people are no longer free to live their lives in the way they want.

If you're one of those that wants to put their heads in the sand, that's fine, but why do you even read Internet discussion boards? You should be living simply in nature far away from the crowds like Henry David Thoreau. Definitely a place with no Internet access.

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6 hours ago, BhForce said:

The reason people talk about these topics are because they have real impact on people's lives.

If a plane flies into the NYC World Trade Center towers in a Hollywood creation, it has no effect. But when it did so for real, real Sikhs died in the backlash. That was not "false", bro. Also not false was 6 of our brothers dying in the attack on the Gurdwara in Wisconsin.

Brexit will have a real impact on people's lives in Britain, which includes us or our brothers living in the UK.

It's a matter of vital importance because if the UK remains in the EU, it could be forced to accept huge numbers of "refugees" just like the Eastern European countries are being forced to. If that happens, we will be living in a quasi-Islamic state in Britain because when the number of Muslims in a country reaches a threshold level, people are no longer free to live their lives in the way they want.

If you're one of those that wants to put their heads in the sand, that's fine, but why do you even read Internet discussion boards? You should be living simply in nature far away from the crowds like Henry David Thoreau. Definitely a place with no Internet access.

Unfortunately you are completely missing the point and are deceived by what you are watching on TV. If you are going to base your reality on what the media companies manufacture then you are living in their construct. Please do some research, learn to use your brain and stop filling it with non-sense. You are easily indoctrinated but cannot see it. There are huge cracks in the walls of deception they have you bound within, if you opened your eyes, then you could spot them and break free. Unless do so, then you will only continue to argue the false paradigm that has been put into your head by years of brainwashing. 

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15 minutes ago, superdupersingh said:

Unfortunately you are completely missing the point and are deceived by what you are watching on TV. If you are going to base your reality on what the media companies manufacture then you are living in their construct. Please do some research, learn to use your brain and stop filling it with non-sense. You are easily indoctrinated but cannot see it. There are huge cracks in the walls of deception they have you bound within, if you opened your eyes, then you could spot them and break free. Unless do so, then you will only continue to argue the false paradigm that has been put into your head by years of brainwashing. 

it was a plan to distract Uk population from removal of workers rights, human rights and social security protection, increase of embezzlement from government agencies such as health , education , prisons by ministers. opening the country to attack from corporations within and without the country

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1 hour ago, superdupersingh said:

Unfortunately you are completely missing the point and are deceived by what you are watching on TV.

Well, bro, why don't you enlighten us. There is no per-post charge on this board. Go ahead and tell us the Real Truth.

1 hour ago, superdupersingh said:

If you are going to base your reality on what the media companies manufacture then you are living in their construct.

And where do you get your reality? Original research? You read all of Hansards, the Congressional Record and the Federal Register directly? You interview PM May and President Trump personally to get your news?

1 hour ago, superdupersingh said:

There are huge cracks in the walls of deception they have you bound within,

Look, man, I agree that there are many areas of the news that are portrayed deceptively. Feel free to post your take.

But that's not what you did. You said "Don't waste your time listening to all this rubbish. Just live your lives and do not care for all these false shows/manufactured topics. "

To which I responded that these are real events that have real impacts on people's lives (including Sikhs). And you provided not a single specific response.

And by the way, Balbir Singh Sodhi was a real person who really died. That's not a rubbish/false/manufactured topic.

And the following victims of the Wisconsin Gurdwara shooting were real people who are really dead: Paramjit Kaur, 41; and five men: Satwant Singh Kaleka, 65, the founder of the gurdwara; Prakash Singh, 39, a Granthi; Sita Singh, 41; Ranjit Singh, 49; and Suveg Singh, 84.

That's also not a rubbish/false/manufactured topic.

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1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

it was a plan to distract Uk population from removal of workers rights, human rights and social security protection, increase of embezzlement from government agencies such as health , education , prisons by ministers. opening the country to attack from corporations within and without the country

So Brexit was a devious scheme by the evil corporations to gut various laws? 

The reality is the vast majority of those "evil corporations" were in favor of remaining in the EU.

2/3 of big corps wanted to stay in the EU. Only 2% favored a Brexit scenario.

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Big business loves the EU because it is the font of regulations which help to suppress smaller competitors. When the EU introduces a new licensing scheme, a new set of product description regulations or employments laws it makes life a little more difficult for big business. But it makes life a hell of lot more difficult for small businesses, who have fewer lawyers and officers on hand to grapple with the consequences.

 

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On 3/19/2018 at 12:30 PM, BhForce said:

I'm trying to figure out what you're saying.

Are you saying it's bad that the British people don't want to take orders from the EU?

If so, what's bad about that?

Also, do you favor Punjab being able to do what it wants to do without interference by Delhi? If so, do you oppose the UK being able to do what it wants to do without interference by Brussels? And if so, why?

Everyone is entitled to freedom but the circumstances in Panjab can't be compared with brexit in the uk.

This sinner is nowhere near perfect but the chitteh should repay their karma and that's not my problem - many live too good a life compared to most of the world and they don't face the threat of non-existence either.

More greed and ego for some and more fights from silent death for many.

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Brexit was the political will of the british public to get away from the dictates of the EU elite. The Banks, the EU and american obama administration was trying to scare the British public not to vote for brexit even david cameron prime minister of the UK at the time was confident no1 seriously would vote to leave the EU but the UK public had enough.

1) Main reason by far was crazy immigration rules which meant any tom,d1ck, harry from the now expanded EU could live in the UK and claim higher benefits than their home countries while their relatives in other poorer EU countries (bulgeria, poland, romania,etc) received money too if they had dependents like kids or disabled.

2) Many ethnic minority Brits also voted for brexit because of the benefits scandal the newly arrived eastern european immigrants from the EU were claiming benefits in UK and sending money back to relatives back home. This unfair and unjust system was not the same for non-EU british nationals and their dependants (eg jamacian/nigerian/Indian/pakistani/Chinese/Americam/Australian,etc) ...they could not claim benefits nor for their relatives outside the EU. But eastern european people could claim everything and their families back home and still can until the UK leaves the EU in 2019.

3) The EU when it was founded in 1970s and when britian joined was only 12 western european nations because at the time the soviet union was occupying most of eastern europe. The EU was great it was providing job opportunities and travel for the richer part of europe and their citizens. But when the soviet union collapsed then the EU expanded its borders and swallowed up poorer parts of eastern europe the citizens of those countries were delighted to join the richer EU club and recieved great preaks and benefits they never had under the old soviet union system But for the citizens of the western part of EU there was no benefits it was only more problems as poorer eastern europeans travelled to their countries to take jobs, welfare, housing, pressure on schools, transport and crime also followed.

4) The EU was pushing for handouts from richer countries like the UK to bail out greece, italy, spain, portugal,etc. The UK already has its own debt problems without having to bail out other countries. The EU also tried to push the euro currency on the UK population but they rejected it fearing the financial trouble that did eventually come in 2010 and still isnt resolved.

These are the main reasons but now we see how Russiaphobia is being used as an excuse to keep UK within the EU as a pretext of security against the alleged expansionist and geo-political plans of putins Russia. The lengths the EU elite will only further anger the British public in sticking to their position of brexiting even if there was another referendum.

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20 hours ago, GuestSingh said:

Everyone is entitled to freedom but the circumstances in Panjab can't be compared with brexit in the uk.

Well, why don't you give 2 or 3 reasons why it's different? I've yet to get a good answer from any opponent of British freedom who is also a proponent of independence or more state power for Punjab. If Britain should be forced to share its wealth with the EU, then why shouldn't Punjab be forced to share its wealth with India?

If Britain should be forced to share its natural resources (fish) with Europe, then why not Punjab (water)? If Britain shouldn't have the right to determine the terms of trade, then why should Punjab be able to set the terms of trade and prices of its wheat and rice?

20 hours ago, GuestSingh said:

This sinner is nowhere near perfect but the chitteh should repay their karma and that's not my problem - many live too good a life compared to most of the world and they don't face the threat of non-existence either.

OK, so you think loss of British freedom is payback for taking our Sikh Raj. Just a note: Loss of British independence will not bring back the Sikh Raj.

Also, what a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. I mean, you would seriously rather live in Islamic Britain just to stick it to the white man who destroyed our Kingdom? It would be better to live in Christian Britain and constantly remind them about the British duplicity in Punjab/India, if that's your desire. Because you won't be able to say a word in Islamic Britain.

Need I remind you that in Pakistani children's textbooks the picture for the world zaalam (tyrant) is a picture of a Sikh?

What a wonderful life you'll have with those people in charge in Britain, but, hey, at least it's not the evil "gora" in charge!

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On 3/21/2018 at 2:17 PM, BhForce said:

Well, why don't you give 2 or 3 reasons why it's different?

Read the end of the 2nd paragraph and last sentence in my post again.

I've yet to get a good answer from any opponent of British freedom who is also a proponent of independence or more state power for Punjab. If Britain should be forced to share its wealth with the EU, then why shouldn't Punjab be forced to share its wealth with India?

Panjab is already forced to share its wealth with Bharat i.e. water - 50% flows directly to Rajasthan and around 20% to Haryana. What revenue is generated from these diversions?

If Britain should be forced to share its natural resources (fish) with Europe, then why not Punjab (water)? If Britain shouldn't have the right to determine the terms of trade, then why should Punjab be able to set the terms of trade and prices of its wheat and rice?

Not sure whether fish is a uk natural resource - the same fish could be caught elsewhere in another country. However, river water flows directly from the Himalaya mountains into Panjab. Wheat and rice require hard labour, too.

Also, both are in two different continents, therefore, they're governed by different laws - the same legislation won't exist for every country because each government will have different problems and ideas, both influenced by a different culture.

OK, so you think loss of British freedom is payback for taking our Sikh Raj. Just a note: Loss of British independence will not bring back the Sikh Raj.

Do you think karma and payback are different or the same?

Also, what a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. I mean, you would seriously rather live in Islamic Britain just to stick it to the white man who destroyed our Kingdom? It would be better to live in Christian Britain and constantly remind them about the British duplicity in Punjab/India, if that's your desire. Because you won't be able to say a word in Islamic Britain.

Who says this sinner will still be living here if it turns islamic?

 

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