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WJKKWJKF,

I am an Amritdhari Sikh. As a part of work, I have to visit Singapore for four days  ( might be posted permanently there ). Currently, I live in India.

It is becoming really very hard to convince about removing kirpan for traveling.

For the flight, I have heard that we can check-in our kirpan in the luggage and take it on an international flight. People suggest to perform Ardas and wear it on reaching the destination.

However, I found that kirpan is also not allowed on Singapore MRT ( mass rapid transportation). So even if I take it on the flight, I won't be able to take it further through MRT. It is becoming really hard for me to digest living without kirpan as I might be posted to Singapore permanently next month. 

Source: https://www.quora.com/Is-kirpan-allowed-in-Singapore-MRT.

Can somebody please suggest how should I cope up with such situation? I have to travel next week.

How do Amritdhari Sikhs in Singapore manage?

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3 hours ago, Guest Sikh said:

WJKKWJKF,

I am an Amritdhari Sikh. As a part of work, I have to visit Singapore for four days  ( might be posted permanently there ). Currently, I live in India.

It is becoming really very hard to convince about removing kirpan for traveling.

For the flight, I have heard that we can check-in our kirpan in the luggage and take it on an international flight. People suggest to perform Ardas and wear it on reaching the destination.

However, I found that kirpan is also not allowed on Singapore MRT ( mass rapid transportation). So even if I take it on the flight, I won't be able to take it further through MRT. It is becoming really hard for me to digest living without kirpan as I might be posted to Singapore permanently next month. 

Source: https://www.quora.com/Is-kirpan-allowed-in-Singapore-MRT.

Can somebody please suggest how should I cope up with such situation? I have to travel next week.

How do Amritdhari Sikhs in Singapore manage?

why don't you contact them at the gurdwara there ?

something I foound

https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/111068/is-kirpan-allowed-in-singapore-mrt

Edited by jkvlondon

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http://sikhadvisoryboard.org/index.php/security-guidelines-on-the-kirpan/

The Sikhs of Singapore have put forth the above guidance after consulting with Singapore authorities. 

Singaporeans know about Sikhs, and respect them. But to keep order in their society, they ban weapons. For Sikhs, the authorities acknowledge the kirpan, but don't want the general population getting the wrong idea.

Basically, Sikhs can wear kirpan, but don't flash it. Just keep it hidden, and you will be fine. 
Also, keep it small. Out of sight, out of mind.

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4 hours ago, Guest Sikh said:

WJKKWJKF,

I am an Amritdhari Sikh. As a part of work, I have to visit Singapore for four days  ( might be posted permanently there ). Currently, I live in India.

It is becoming really very hard to convince about removing kirpan for traveling.

For the flight, I have heard that we can check-in our kirpan in the luggage and take it on an international flight. People suggest to perform Ardas and wear it on reaching the destination.

However, I found that kirpan is also not allowed on Singapore MRT ( mass rapid transportation). So even if I take it on the flight, I won't be able to take it further through MRT. It is becoming really hard for me to digest living without kirpan as I might be posted to Singapore permanently next month. 

Source: https://www.quora.com/Is-kirpan-allowed-in-Singapore-MRT.

Can somebody please suggest how should I cope up with such situation? I have to travel next week.

How do Amritdhari Sikhs in Singapore manage?

More importantly do you know how to use a kirpan and if the situation arose would you be willing to use it?

Do you maintain your kirpan to ensure it is razor sharp?...... or is it a useless blunt blade that couldn’t even cut a banana? 

I know people will flip out over my comments but wearing a kirpan for most people has become a ritual & nothing else.

Wearing a blunt kirpan, not knowing how to use it & not having the courage to use it is as good as not wearing one

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4 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

why don't you contact them at the gurdwara there ?

something I foound

https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/111068/is-kirpan-allowed-in-singapore-mrt

Thanks for the reply. I have mailed them regarding this and waiting for their reply. The question is asked by me only. :)

3 hours ago, BhForce said:

http://sikhadvisoryboard.org/index.php/security-guidelines-on-the-kirpan/

The Sikhs of Singapore have put forth the above guidance after consulting with Singapore authorities. 

Singaporeans know about Sikhs, and respect them. But to keep order in their society, they ban weapons. For Sikhs, the authorities acknowledge the kirpan, but don't want the general population getting the wrong idea.

Basically, Sikhs can wear kirpan, but don't flash it. Just keep it hidden, and you will be fine. 
Also, keep it small. Out of sight, out of mind.

Thanks for the reply. I wanted to confirm about this as the question asked here: https://www.quora.com/Is-kirpan-allowed-in-Singapore-MRT says it is not allowed. Secondly, how should anyone react to such situations?
 

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! 

Have you ever wondered what the law for wearing a Kirpaan in your country is?

Well now there is a online tool that shows you for free of charge! 

You can use it to find legislation and laws regarding the Kirpaan. The app will allow you to search for local or regional legislation. 

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18 hours ago, Guest Sikh said:

Thanks for the reply. I wanted to confirm about this as the question asked here: https://www.quora.com/Is-kirpan-allowed-in-Singapore-MRT says it is not allowed. Secondly, how should anyone react to such situations?

1. All of the answers at the link above are written by ethnic Chinese on a general basis regarding bearing of weapons. The mainstream Singaporean does not know of specific accommodations for Sikhs in Singapore.

The Sikh community has come to an accommodation with the police, as stated above.

If you're going to Singapore, you won't have a problem, just keep your kirpan out of sight. Also stitch your gatra really tight so the kirpan doesn't fall out of the gatra. And don't talk about your kirpan. What the mainstream community doesn't know won't hurt them.

If one of your co-workers asks about Sikhs wearing kirpan, just tell them you're supposed to wear a kirpan, but you follow all applicable laws while in Singapore. Don't make problems for our brothers who live in Singapore.

2. If you still have doubts, you can call one of the phone numbers for the Sikh Advisory Board, or call any of the Gurdwaras of Singapore, but they'll tell you the same thing: wear a small hidden kirpan.

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16 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

Visit the website https://www.Kirpaan.com and let us know us know how you fared

OK, there's absolutely no information for Singapore.

For the country in which the vast majority of Sikhs live (India), there's a one-line reference to article 25 of the Constitution, but no specific information on practical stuff like wearing kirpans on airplanes.

For Canada, it says "In most public places in Canada a Sikh religious Kirpan is allowed but there some places where it is not clear cut such as workplaces and schools." Makes no mention of the fact that small kirpans are now allowed on airplanes in Canada.

The website shows less information than you'd get on the first page of a Google search.

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