Authenticity of Sikhi to the max

[superdupersingh]

Doesn't anyone else see the dangers of digitalisation of gurbani?

it can be very easily altered and difficult to spot unlike the physical form. 

Our enemies are destroying the physical forms of gurbani which are authentic whilst we are trying to combat this by putting it into a virtual format.

Its completely possible that this is their agenda. I think we should be collecting and preserving gurbani in the  original form since this new digital trend has major future pitfalls which i have mentioned: the easy and widespread corruption and distortion of gurbani which our enemies will no doubt be doing after they have done what they can on the physical side. Also the digital versions are completely dependent on electricity/internet/computers and who knows what will happen in the future.

This isn't an ethical argument about gurbani being digitalised but on what is likely to happen based on how our enemies operate. We are playing into their hands. 

[Kira]

14 minutes ago, superdupersingh said:

Doesn't anyone else see the dangers of digitalisation of gurbani?

it can be very easily altered and difficult to spot unlike the physical form. 

Our enemies are destroying the physical forms of gurbani which are authentic whilst we are trying to combat this by putting it into a virtual format.

Its completely possible that this is their agenda. I think we should be collecting and preserving gurbani in the  original form since this new digital trend has major future pitfalls which i have mentioned: the easy and widespread corruption and distortion of gurbani which our enemies will no doubt be doing after they have done what they can on the physical side. Also the digital versions are completely dependent on electricity/internet/computers and who knows what will happen in the future.

This isn't an ethical argument about gurbani being digitalised but on what is likely to happen based on how our enemies operate. We are playing into their hands. 

That's why we need to find and secure all saroops of Gurbani where-ever they are. Even if the Saroops are kept gupt (and imo a certain amount should be for security reasons) it would be immensely important. I'll give you an example from Chandi di Vaar, there's 2 apps out there, during the part where it says "Indar jayhaa jodhaa maithou bhujiaa" one has maithou as being Meiou, which makes no sense. The app still hasn't been corrected and these differences are really detrimental to the panth as a whole, they breed confusion about a scripture many so called sikhs already do immense nindya of.

[BhForce]

9 minutes ago, superdupersingh said:

Doesn't anyone else see the dangers of digitalisation of gurbani?

it can be very easily altered and difficult to spot unlike the physical form. 

What? It's true that it can be very easily altered, but any changes would be extremely easy to spot (unlike the physical form). Changes can be found within seconds.

12 minutes ago, superdupersingh said:

I think we should be collecting and preserving gurbani in the  original form

Huh? Nobody is changing Gurbani in the original form. People are not disposing of old recensions of Guru Granth Sahib, and replacing those with an iPad. Rather, Gurbani is just being made available on the Internet for those who want to access it that way.

20 minutes ago, superdupersingh said:

Also the digital versions are completely dependent on electricity/internet/computers and who knows what will happen in the future.

Totally agree, but nobody's saying to remove Guru Granth Sahib ji from the Gurdwaras.

I would say the vast majority of people who are accessing Gurbani on the Internet are not those would otherwise have pothis (2 volume sets) of Guru Granth Sahib at home, so basically this expanding the reach of Gurbani.

[BhForce]

5 minutes ago, Kira said:

I'll give you an example from Chandi di Vaar, there's 2 apps out there, during the part where it says "Indar jayhaa jodhaa maithou bhujiaa" one has maithou as being Meiou, which makes no sense.

Well, you're right that the state of Dasam bani authenticity in apps/Internet is atrocious, but that's true even in printed Gutkas.

[Kira]

2 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Well, you're right that the state of Dasam bani authenticity in apps/Internet is atrocious, but that's true even in printed Gutkas.

I've noticed they seem to add bindis everywhere, not sure if the original manuscripts had all of them where they have been placed but the Gutka situation isn't unique only to Dasam Bani, its true for all bani. I've seen Sukhmani Sahib Gutkas where they've misprinted the 7th Astphadi due to Sadh and Sadhu being too similar or something.  

[simran345]

I don’t use Sikhi to the max. I downloaded the app, and it’s so confusing and not user friendly. If you want to search a shabad, it doesn’t bring up anything. 

[BhForce]

26 minutes ago, Kira said:

I've seen Sukhmani Sahib Gutkas where they've misprinted the 7th Astphadi due to Sadh and Sadhu being too similar or something.  

Best to stick to SGPC gutkas. I'd not buy a gutka from a miscellaneous publisher who just throws together a gukta to sell it and make some money.

[Guest room]

1 hour ago, BhForce said:

What? It's true that it can be very easily altered, but any changes would be extremely easy to spot (unlike the physical form). Changes can be found within seconds.

Huh? Nobody is changing Gurbani in the original form. People are not disposing of old recensions of Guru Granth Sahib, and replacing those with an iPad. Rather, Gurbani is just being made available on the Internet for those who want to access it that way.

What? Don't think you understood. 

[Kira]

1 hour ago, BhForce said:

Best to stick to SGPC gutkas. I'd not buy a gutka from a miscellaneous publisher who just throws together a gukta to sell it and make some money.

even they have some errors within them as well. The whole situation is rather bleak.