“Britain's 'worst ever' child grooming scandal exposed: Hundreds of young girls raped, beaten, sold for sex and some even KILLED” - It’s time for the Sikh community to get more serious about this issue.

[superkaur]

Sad cases but we all know who the predators are its 90% men of muslim heritage / background thats grooming gangs that is. The majority of child sexual abuses cases are commited by perverted pedo white men in the UK.

The worrying thing is that closet far right wing racist whites especially white men are offloading their failures as a society on to asians by not looking after and protect their young girls from sleeping around, getting drunk taking drugs and going with these perverted men. These pedo muslim gangs will obviously look for the easiest targets and the easiest targets were white underaged girls from care homes. The black pedo drug gangs also target the white girls because they are the easiest girls to get and pimp

For decades british hindu sikh society has warned their girls to stay away from muslims because they groom and sexually exploit women and then maybe convert them. Largely we have been successful but we have had many girls exploited by the muslim gangs. Only now some who were groomed sexually abused and converrted are speaking out against it to help other Sikh girls not to fall into the islamic trap.

British White racist establishment and its mainstream media wants to paint it as a race problem..... as a asian male targeting white girls problems they dont care that asian/brown hindu sikh girls were also targetted by these muslim gangs. And more worryingly is that some stupid irresponsible Sikh groups are spreading racist white propaganda articles from dailymail and the sun that say its "asian men" rather than say its a muslim men problem or muslim cultural problem more accurately.

These groups are creating  a rod for their own backs because that brown skin that asian skin that these sikh guys have spreading anti-asian articles will come back to haunt them when they go to apply for jobs that asian race that brown skin will stand out to the racist white they wont care if they muslim or not the fact you got the appearance of the people who abused their white girls will prejudice asian males chances of having a good fair and equal life.

[Kira]

8 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

was listening to Bhai Ajmer SIngh talking about Sant Attar Singh ji Mastuana wale  and when Sant ji's  sewak Teja Singh was sent abroad to get duniyavi gian at Harvard  after getting his first degree he said that he was filled with ahankar and this broke him from Gurmat , the only way forward for sikhs is to keep well rooted in sikhi whilst getting gian of worldly sphere . When he realised this he reimmersed himself in gurmat and gurbani  and became brahmgiani got further degrees than started setting up the gurdwarey in USA.

so university is the key place for make or break of sikhi  in many ways ...need wider parchaar cycles in unis societies and general campus leaflet drops/street parchaar. We need well-educated gursikhs females especially who will create a new visible role model for younger generations

Can personally attest to this. Uni is just nasty on that front.

[GurjantGnostic]

11 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

this could be good.

Instead at the moment it is many females who are spreading the venom against turbans, not doing their sewa in keeping infant sons'' kesh even though they somehow choose to put Singh on birth certificates, putting kanjarfied photos on insta and facebook (seriously everywhere now, the behzti is real).

Is it no surprise many are falling to grooming? We seriously need to wake up!

 

We recently had a psychologist do a seminar on communication and abuse in our Dojo. Basically he said any communication that isn't respectful is some degree of abusive. 

It seems to me keshdari showing respect for non-keshdari and visa versa, men and women for each other, various rehits for each other will only serve to strengthen Sikhi. 

Even when it comes to addicts etc. the only way they will get better is to be shown respect as a human being and a Sikh, and feel accepted so they can be honest and get the help and support they need. If they feel shamed or shunned they will just leave Sikhi, or hide in their addiction. 

The only way sexually groomed females can be honest and stay strong within the Sangat is if they aren't shamed and have no reason to feel ashamed. 

I feel love, communication, respect, and inclusion is what is needed to heal divides and strengthen Sikhi, but it requires accepting all the differences and supporting rather than condemning each other. 

14 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

sikh community needs to respect turban and stop this negative racist hate within sikh community against turbanned sikhs.

I agree but I have a feeling this started with Amritdhari Sikhs treating the cut Sikhs like they aren't Sikhs. That sentiment is voiced on this board. 

14 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

sikh community needs to follow rehit, ie shastar rehit

Definitely this. 

[MisterrSingh]

[Ranjeet01]

"I've been getting these emails saying that it's not my position to judge anybody. I want to make it quite clear that I didn't judge him. I know God is the only judge we have. I just set the appointment up."

-Steven Sandison on the murder of his child molester cellmate

[BhForce]

21 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

It seems to me keshdari showing respect for non-keshdari and visa versa, men and women for each other, various rehits for each other will only serve to strengthen Sikhi. 

Yeah, I think that on the one hand amritdhari/keshadhari should stop calling non-amritdhari/non-keshadhari (as the case may be) "non-Sikhs". Some people on this board call them "Punjabis". What is that supposed to mean? Punjabis are of all different types of religions.

On the other hand, non-amritdhari/non-keshadhari should accept that they are Sikhs and that necessarily entails some sort of responsibility, including learning about our religion and making steps (however slowly) to follow it, such as everything other than keeping hair. And also feeling the need for helping our community out in times of crisis, such as the grooming issue.

[GurjantGnostic]

2 hours ago, BhForce said:

On the other hand, non-amritdhari/non-keshadhari should accept that they are Sikhs and that necessarily entails some sort of responsibility, including learning about our religion and making steps (however slowly) to follow it, such as everything other than keeping hair. And also feeling the need for helping our community out in times of crisis, such as the grooming issue.

Yeah some of the non amritdhari sikhs in my area have a poor attitude about sikhi and in general but they still have khanda stickers on their car and wear kara but once you start talking Sikhi their attitude just sucks. 

I would say my experience with keshdari is much better. 

[Ranjeet01]

I am not a Midlander so I do not know much about Telford.

However, going on Wikipedia the town is over 90 percent and about 3.8 percent Asian. It's a new town spillover from Birmingham. 

That 3.8 percent Asian I imagine that the majority of that is Pakistani Muslim.

However, it is such a small minority compared to Luton, Bradford etc. How in the heck did they manage to groom so many girls where their numbers are so comparatively small?

I am sure the mini-cabbing fraternity is involved somehow.

Does anybody know more about Telford?

[Ranjeet01]

Just checked on the Telford Census,  the Pakistani population is only over 2000 making just 1.35 percent of the population.

How can such a population so tiny cause so much grooming. If it was like 10 percent, you could make a case.

Either they are punching well above their weight or they are coming in from other towns and cities to do the grooming.

Birmingham is only 30 miles from Telford.

Astonishing.

 

[jkvlondon]

19 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Just checked on the Telford Census,  the Pakistani population is only over 2000 making just 1.35 percent of the population.

How can such a population so tiny cause so much grooming. If it was like 10 percent, you could make a case.

Either they are punching well above their weight or they are coming in from other towns and cities to do the grooming.

Birmingham is only 30 miles from Telford.

Astonishing.

 

not so astonishing when you know the Modus operandi of these filthy individuals , most interviewed girls say that they are regularly ferried from their home towns to other cities and towns to be pimped out , yes by minicabs  so when you say Telford wow how, I say why not , small town , small police presence , relaxed families because it is not a big bad city so let the kids play out unsupervised .... nonce's paradise