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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5776672/sikh-student-was-dragged-out-of-nightclub-for-wearing-his-turban-because-headgear-was-banned/

I liked this bit: "I didn't think you were allowed to come in a pub and drink anyway."

A STUNNED law student has described how he was “dragged" out of a bar because he was wearing a turban - after being told that “headgear” was banned.

Amrik Singh claims he was ordered to leave Rush Late Bar in Mansfield, Notts, in the early hours of today.

The 22-year-old said he tried to explain to a bouncer who approached him that the turban protected his hair and was part of his religion.

But he said his pleas were ignored - and Amrik was “dragged away“ from his friends before being removed from the venue.

Amrik, who is Sikh, was also allegedly told: "I didn't think you were allowed to come in a pub and drink anyway."

He posted about his experience on Facebook - along with a recording of a shocking conversation he had with staff in which his turban was compared to a pair of trainers.

Rush Late Bar on Clumber Street in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire
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Rush Late Bar on Clumber Street in Mansfield, Nottinghamshire

A member of staff has now been suspended.

Amrik, of Nuneaton, Warks, wrote: "I'm heartbroken.

"I was today removed from a venue because I was wearing a turban. Whilst drinking a glass of coke, I was removed from a venue called 'Rush' in Mansfield.

"The reason why I was removed was because I refused to remove my turban.

"According to the venue, headgear is not allowed. Initially, I was allowed in however, I was removed after around 30 minutes."

Amrik said the bouncer had approached him saying that he needed to remove my turban.

He said: "I explained that a turban isn't just headgear, but part of my religion and that it protected my hair - and that I was allowed to wear a turban in public.

"The bouncer ignored this and said I needed to take it off. I refused and was subsequently dragged away from my friends.

 
"The fact that I was being removed because of my religious views really upset me. My ancestors have fought for the British army previously.

"Furthermore, me and my parents were born in Britain and all uphold British values.

"I was eventually let back into the venue but was told that I would not be allowed back in in the future because of my headwear."

Amrik, who is a final year law student at Nottingham Trent University, added: "The worst part of it was the fact he compared my turban to wearing a pair of

trainers."

In a statement to the Labour councillor for Mansfield, Sonya Ward, Rush Late Bar said that it was not their policy.

Ms Ward shared the statement on Twitter.

It read: "Good morning, this is absolutely NOT our policy. We are investigating this incident and the security member in question has been suspended."

 
 
 
Student Amrik Singh says he was left 'heartbroken' at apparently being singled out
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yeah I read this on my feed too , and the same phrase caught my eye , guess all this RE, interfaith knowledge sharing in UK has some downsides for people who want to live it up , can't keep a turban and do the wrong thing people know better . However it is clear that the bouncer had been put up to mischief by someone after the fact .

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Reminds me of when I first wore a patka and my head of year didn't want me to wear it, everyday I came with it but I had to take it off.

One day I came with it and she said nothing.

I now come to school in a dumalla :)

 

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I can’t believe this guy ran to the media with this.  I heard the recording of his conversation with the bouncer on BBC news.  I mean come on he’s using the religion card of being a well integrated  Sikh and the Sikhs being exempted from wearing helmets on the battlefront in WW2.  He clearly sounds intoxicated in the  recording.  You would never see a Muslim run to the media after being denied into a bar for a drink.  The Sikh lad should have thought about what he is actually protesting about and what mixed messages he is giving to the wider public.  He should have taken the advice about Sikhs not being allowed to drink as blessing from the bouncer and just left quietly and really reflected on what the bouncer had just pointed out to him.  Instead he went and cried to the media and once again brought disgrace upon our community who try so hard to educate to non Sikhs about Punjabi culture being completely the opposite to our Sikh teachings.

I know our lot drink but this level of besharampuna is not right.

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36 minutes ago, TigerForce1 said:

I can’t believe this guy ran to the media with this.  I heard the recording of his conversation with the bouncer on BBC news.  I mean come on he’s using the religion card of being a well integrated  Sikh and the Sikhs being exempted from wearing helmets on the battlefront in WW2.  He clearly sounds intoxicated in the  recording.  You would never see a Muslim run to the media after being denied into a bar for a drink.  The Sikh lad should have thought about what he is actually protesting about and what mixed messages he is giving to the wider public.  He should have taken the advice about Sikhs not being allowed to drink as blessing from the bouncer and just left quietly and really reflected on what the bouncer had just pointed out to him.  Instead he went and cried to the media and once again brought disgrace upon our community who try so hard to educate to non Sikhs about Punjabi culture being completely the opposite to our Sikh teachings.

I know our lot drink but this level of besharampuna is not right.

According to the article he was drinking a coke. If he'd been drinking I think the bar staff would have mentioned it. 

You support Sikhs being forced to remove their turbans?

The media attention helps get the word out about Saroop. Guy is kind of picking and choosing what aspects of saroop he adheres to, but still. 

I tended bar and did security in clubs quite a long time. He doesn't seem drunk to me. 

As for muslims beings denied access to a bar does that happen? In the US that's called discrimination. 

Furthermore he was let in to begin with. 

If I was his friend I'd be gone too, not sure how great his friends are still sitting in the bar. 

In what way is standing up for his rights, and the rights of anyone to wear saroop, a disgrace?

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8 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

According to the article he was drinking a coke. If he'd been drinking I think the bar staff would have mentioned it. 

You support Sikhs being forced to remove their turbans?

The media attention helps get the word out about Saroop. Guy is kind of picking and choosing what aspects of saroop he adheres to, but still. 

no one can force a sikh to remove their turban as  it is a race offence under law ... and they cannot count the sikh turban in the same category as baseball caps etc ...as it is an article of faith

education on both parties is needed staff for dispelling ignorance and on sikh's side to not bring disrepute on to the sikh image and to not expect  sikh organisations to be ok with his behaviour and bail him out there are laws to do that

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7 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

sikh's side to not bring disrepute on to the sikh image and to not expect  sikh organisations to be ok with his behaviour and bail him out there are laws to do that

I don't think it's been shown he was drinking. 

Did he run to a Sikh organization? I didn't read that. It's not like he needs anything, seems he's spreading awareness about a valid race offense..

What am I missing?

Bar is a dumb place for anyone, but he's 22 and a lot of social networking professionally, and academically happens over drinks. 

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15 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I don't think it's been shown he was drinking. 

Did he run to a Sikh organization? I didn't read that. It's not like he needs anything, seems he's spreading awareness about a valid race offense..

What am I missing?

http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/sikh-man-told-leave-club-dont-allow-headgear-7377578/

has an embedded video/audio of the actual conversation  between the guy and the staff sounds like two different staff .perhaps he would more convincing about his faith if he didn't have stubble on his chin when he says sikhs aren't supposed to cut their hair . The number of times I've had to emphasise sikh requirements after loosey goosey ppl have removed their kardey etc or turbans to play sports when my sons refused .

really he is heartbroken because he cannot go in this bar .... I dunno priorities are a bit skewiff  it would have been more productive to say this is an offence under british law whether you are a private bar or a pub can I speak to your manager rather than bringing pard dadey etc into it. Yes I also agree that his friends were more than a bit ish to not get up and take their custom elsewhere because of his treatmenthttp://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/sikh-man-told-leave-club-dont-allow-headgear-7377578/

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29 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

perhaps he would more convincing about his faith if he didn't have stubble on his chin when he says sikhs aren't supposed to cut their hair .

Yeah you can see he keeps his head kesh but trims the face. 

30 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

rather than bringing pard dadey etc into it.

I didn't realize he did that but he's a law student and the offense really is against Sikhi as a whole. 

I bet nobody else in that area/brittain gets asked to remove turban any time soon though. 

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15 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

According to the article he was drinking a coke. If he'd been drinking I think the bar staff would have mentioned it. 

You support Sikhs being forced to remove their turbans?

The media attention helps get the word out about Saroop. Guy is kind of picking and choosing what aspects of saroop he adheres to, but still. 

I tended bar and did security in clubs quite a long time. He doesn't seem drunk to me. 

As for muslims beings denied access to a bar does that happen? In the US that's called discrimination. 

Furthermore he was let in to begin with. 

If I was his friend I'd be gone too, not sure how great his friends are still sitting in the bar. 

In what way is standing up for his rights, and the rights of anyone to wear saroop, a disgrace?

Replace the word ‘bar’ with brothel, shisha lounge, casino, head shop, vaping lounge etc etc.  Should a Sikh be defending his right to wear his dastaar in these places and then go public with his protest.  

I couldn’t care less about people going to these places but remember who you are representing when you are wearing a Dastaar.

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