Amrit and Rehit

[BhForce]

20 hours ago, Guest Amrit said:

I don't want to do nitnem I just want to have amrit. I'll decide if I want to do nitnem after taking amrit.

You don't get to put conditions on the Guru. Only those persons are given Amrit who promise to stay within the Guru's command unconditionally.

ਮੈ ਬੰਦਾ ਬੈ ਖਰੀਦੁ ਸਚੁ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਮੇਰਾ ॥

Mai Bandhaa Bai Khareedh Sach Saahib Maeraa ||

I am Your purchased slave, O True Lord Master.

ਆਸਾ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੦੩) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੩੯੬ ਪੰ. ੧੩ 
Raag Thitee Gauri Guru Arjan Dev

 

How can a slave dictate conditions to his master?

A Sikh is meant to be a sacrifice himself to his Guru:

ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰ ਕਉ ਹਉ ਖੰਨੀਐ ਜਿਨਿ ਮਧੁਸੂਦਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਸੁਣਾਇਆ ॥

This Gur Ko Ho Khanneeai Jin Madhhusoodhan Har Naam Sunaaeiaa ||

I am every bit a sacrifice to the Guru, the Lover of Nectar, who has revealed the Name of the Lord.

ਵਡਹੰਸ ਵਾਰ (ਮਃ ੪) ੭:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੮੮ ਪੰ. ੧੮ 
Raag Vadhans Guru Amar Das

 

As shown above, the Guru gives the Name to the seeker. The seeker sacrifices himself for the Name:

ਹਉ ਵਾਰੀ ਵੰਞਾ ਖੰਨੀਐ ਵੰਞਾ ਤਉ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਕੇ ਨਾਵੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Ho Vaaree Vannjaa Khanneeai Vannjaa Tho Saahib Kae Naavai ||1|| Rehaao ||

I am a sacrifice, cut apart into pieces, a sacrifice to Your Name, O Lord Master. ||1||Pause||

ਵਡਹੰਸ (ਮਃ ੧) (੧) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੫੭ ਪੰ. ੪ 
Raag Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev

 

And you, Mr. Special, don't want to be bothered to do Nitnem?

A person who does not accept the love of the Guru's command into his heart can never know the sweetness of Amrit.

[Guest Amrit]

5 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

so why do you want to take amrit , if you don't want to follow Guru ji's rehit you are not some gorey general(Dwyer) who can pick and choose what bits of rehit you want to follow ? Start practicing the rehit outside of amrit as people suggest then if and only if you are fully dedicated to Guru ji then take the next step.

Because I just want to try it and see what happens. I'll decide after if i wanna do nitnem.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

According to rehat a Sikh should daily “do path” of 5 banis in morning that are Japji Sahib, Jaap Sahib , Tav Prasad Sawayie, Chaupai Sahib and Anand sahib. Similarly for evening rehras sahib and at night Sohila sahib.

Are you referring to the rehatnama or SRM? I don't recall any rehatnama stating to do 5 baania, correct me if I am wrong.

[jkvlondon]

9 minutes ago, monatosingh said:

Are you referring to the rehatnama or SRM? I don't recall any rehatnama stating to do 5 baania, correct me if I am wrong.

rehit nama from Guru Gobind Singh ji is 5 banian in morning minimum and Sodar in sunset Kirtan Sohila before sleeping .

Guru ji's bachan from before Khalsa Saajna diwas was  old nitnem  which always had Japiji sahib and Anand Sahib full Plus Sodar and Kirtan Sohila  , to which he added Jaap Sahib when the bani was brought down to Earth when he was 19 years old ...so became Japji Sahib , Jaap Sahib and Anand Sahib in morning plus Sodar  and Kirtan Sohila

the worrying thing about SRM is that anyone following it will not even be doing nitnem of pre-Khalsa days  , I cannot quote the exact pangti  but I remember that I was told that those who partook of water or food prior to doing paat of jap jaap would be reborn as 'bista ki kiram' having lost this janam (worms of fecal matter)

[Guest]

1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

rehit nama from Guru Gobind Singh ji is 5 banian in morning minimum and Sodar in sunset Kirtan Sohila before sleeping .

Guru ji's bachan from before Khalsa Saajna diwas was  old nitnem  which always had Japiji sahib and Anand Sahib full Plus Sodar and Kirtan Sohila  , to which he added Jaap Sahib when the bani was brought down to Earth when he was 19 years old ...so became Japji Sahib , Jaap Sahib and Anand Sahib in morning plus Sodar  and Kirtan Sohila

the worrying thing about SRM is that anyone following it will not even be doing nitnem of pre-Khalsa days  , I cannot quote the exact pangti  but I remember that I was told that those who partook of water or food prior to doing paat of jap jaap would be reborn as 'bista ki kiram' having lost this janam (worms of fecal matter)

Can you send me a link to the rehit nama of Guru Gobind Singh Ji? I have read about it and I believe Guru Ji did make one but are you referring to 52 hukams?

Jhatka maryada posted one but I can't find the full version of it anywhere.

[Guest]

Guys, this is a troll post

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, Singh123456777 said:

Guys, this is a troll post

I see.

At least it isn't another "do i need pesh for this" post.

 

[Guest Lolz]

1 hour ago, Singh123456777 said:

Guys, this is a troll post

Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner!

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, Singh123456777 said:

Guys, this is a troll post

turning lemons into skujnvi  here and sharing the love of the Guru ji

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

turning lemons into skujnvi  here and sharing the love of the Guru ji

I would still like to see the rehatnama of Kalgidhar Patshah Akaali Guru Gobind Singh Ji Dasmesh Pita.

If you were referring to 52 hukams please let me know. As far as I know, I haven't read a rehatnama that states to do 5 baania. I respect 5 baania, not contradicting it.

I do believe that there is a hukamnama/rehitnama, lot's of sangat have mentioned it but I would personally like to read it whole, not small snippets from it.