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2 hours ago, InderjitS said:

think it was changed to person years back, like HuPerson instead of Human.

Huperson, is an unacceptable manifestation of patriarchy to the esteemed Prime Minister, who doesn't like the word "son" in Canada's national anthem. 

Don't anybody tell him that Sikhs worship Akal Purakh.

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16 hours ago, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

I could have sworn it was a girl BHS but, the fact that I got his sex wrong, as everybody on this forum often does, is hardly a big deal. If it was....you'd be sending rebuke messages to everyone on this forum that has mistakenly called a panji a paaji and vice versa but you don't do that do you ? 

Up to here, you were basically fine. I thought you were deliberately calling a man a woman, but you're basically saying you got his sex wrong. Fine, whatever.

But, no, you can't just stop there. You have to go and insult people (me, in this case):

16 hours ago, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

No, because you are a lemming....afraid of your own self....you instictiveley follow what you think is the pack.

Whatever, Jagsaw, I'm a lemming and a coward, and you're a super-Sikh. Happy?

You just reaffirmed my point about you not merely making arguments, but having to insult people as well.

16 hours ago, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

I've been on this forum a long time and you are without a doubt the most pathetic poster I have come across, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. Given your personality and gift of having no gifts I think you should at least the consider suicide as a possible option.

Were you going to rebut his post? Or just talk about how wonderful you are and how pitiful everyone else is?

16 hours ago, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

no life so posts messages on the internet at 3AM, 8AM, 4PM, 1AM, 5:30AM..2PM....6PM.....9PM     .you name the PM and AM and you can be sure Gurjant Gnostic has posted a boring message at that time

What business is it of yours if he does check in to Sikh Sangat on a regular basis? The fact is that most of the posters here post a lot some times, and other times (when they must be busy), they don't. Even if they did post continuously, so what?

Your post just goes to show how full of yourself you are.

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13 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

You think you are the only ‘Siana Banda’ who can see that this not correct according to rehit.

Well, I think that he thinks he's the only "Siana Banda" period, and will insult anybody, including those (such as me) that agree with him on that point of rehit! If you ask him to stop insulting people ... then you yourself will get insulted.

13 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

You and nobody knows what discussions have taken place about the future of his bride to be.  

Yeah, that's why, while I affirm the general principle that an amritdhari needs to marry an amritdhari, I realize we can't know the specifics of any given situation.

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Yes jagsaw. I post all hours. In between being at the Air Force base, the Dojo and my civilian job. 

You regularly drop many points that you can't refute away with an insult smoke screen. 

I have no problem with socialism. Google apparently links that to the crab mentality though that you exemplify, which seemed oddly apt.  

I enjoy being here so I come often. You might think that's pathetic, but then again some might say being banned however many times and still coming is pathetic.  Especially when you still demonstrate the krodi, ahankar and haumai that bought you the bans. 

As someone who says they wish to protect the khalsa image I don't find your personal example very compelling. You choose to ignore a prominent "khalsa" trying to ban kirpan to wage your war on Jagmeet Singh Ji's engagement. 

You can suggest I kill myself, I wont. Or demean me, that's fine as it will only help kill my ego, but do you want to own those words in your book and carry that burden?

Which one of these crabs embodies telling someone to kill themself?

Which one talks their brother back off the ledge?

Which do you want to be?

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I'm a crab too veer ji or I wouldn't be here. The panj chor knock at my door daily. 

We have an opportunity however in this barrel, to uplift each other. 

I don't expect much from your response. No worries. Feel free to lash out, latch on to a key phrase and willfully ignore the rest. 

Much love. 

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Gurjant....let's get some things out in the open here:

You've been making little digs at me from day one...for no reason whatsoever....and I'm not allowed to respond ?

I think if someone becomes an Amritdhari he/she should live by the rules of being an Amritdhari....but I'm not allowed to say this ?

I think we should break away from our Indian mentality of showering politicians (leaders) with reverence and respect and hold them to a much higher threshold of ethics and morality.....but I'm not allowed to say this ?

I believe all politicians - of every colour, creed and persuasion - should always be taken down a peg or two to remind them of who it is that gives them that 'power'.....but I'm not allowed to say this ?

I believe things should be taken away from the rich and privileged and given to the poor (something I practice in my own life as a privileged 3rd generation western born) . Now you may not agree with this but as it my politico-socio ethical view am I not allowed to say it ?

From day one, I've always stated my views on this forum. I'm a regular on football forums and say awful things about other teams and their supporters....as do they about me and my team. Most of my free  time is spent on skyscraper city forum talking city demographics and I and they love to say awful things about each other's cities sometimes....all good natured because at the end of the day we all respect that great difference in opinion and outlook and celebrate the fact that that is what makes us human.  I'm not here to be liked...I've got enough people that like me.  I'm not here to make friends...I've got enough friends. I state my thoughts on philosophy, history, society here..that's all I do. If you like my views like them....if you don't then don't but understand that abuse will always be met with abuse.

 

p.s   As for the 'jealous' crab mentality you keep mentioning, you need to know that my family is a hair-cut family and I, my wife and children are the only ones that have kept kesh in my entire extended family. For us, that has been a recent decision and all my family would rather I cut my hair and went back to my bad old days. So if I wanted what Jagmeet Singh got I could, if I wanted, do that tomorrow. There's no jelousy involved my friend. When I took Amrit I did it with the responsibility of living within the rules of being Amritdhari. Jagmeet Singh took Amrit. If he couldn't live with the rules of doing it he shouldn't have. If he did it and he still doesn't care about the rules of what it entails he should be held to account....especially as a role model for amritdharis. So I ask you again.....why am I not allowed to point this out ? And why does me pointing this out result in me receiving insults ?

 

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On 2/10/2018 at 9:58 AM, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

And then there's the new humourless one dimensional guy from North America that likes to write the most mundane blindingly obvious things on the internet : Gurjant Gnostic :) :

First of all Gurjant, you need to be aware that being a socialist doesn't carry the same negative connotations in Europe that it does in your part of the world. Here, it is the norm, with conservatism considered the extreme.

So lets get this abundantly straight:  You are saying when we Sikhs see an Amritdhari breaking the rules of being an Amritdhari (such as smoking, drinking alcohol, having an affair with a non-amritdhari, marrying a non-amritdhari) we are suppoosed to keep our mouths shut ?  And if we do point out that it is wrong that makes us evil and wrong ?

Seriously though Gurjant I'm going to very honest with you. I've been on this forum a long time and you are without a doubt the most pathetic poster I have come across, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. Given your personality and gift of having no gifts I think you should at least the consider suicide as a possible option. I mean the inability to spot a jesus / woody allen comparison showed your complete dullness on a humour level and then you go on to write the most boring things this forum has ever seen. The dullness of your personality is maninfested in your posting in other ways too as we see your posts appear on a hour lock basis, i.e a man with no humour and personality has no friends and has no life so posts messages on the internet at 3AM, 8AM, 4PM, 1AM, 5:30AM..2PM....6PM.....9PM     .you name the PM and AM and you can be sure Gurjant Gnostic has posted a boring message at that time. Seriously mate, I'm just saying, don't rule out suicide. I'm not saying do it but sometimes it is the answer and you have taken dull and mundane to a whole new level on this forum. Just sayin'.

If you read his earlier posts, you will find that he is a hypocrite.

In one thread, he accuses someone of trolling on a 8-hour shift, yet, he does just that on a 24-hour rota, as you have pointed out. He is more than just a troll. Ask yourself how someone can spend so much time on this forum, read so many threads and post so much within so little time, do 3 different jobs during day and sleep, eat and whatever else etc. Sounds like another pretentious lie and excuse to deflect his shortcomings - don't fall for it.

Also, please be careful with who you call a Sikh. This identity has already lost much of its meaning but don't render it meaninglessness to the point of where you call JosephAgnostic one - you will only reinforce the arrogance, self-righteousness and hypocrisy that runs in the blood of 'wypipo', as he, quite weirdly, likes to say when referring to his own kind.

Still seems a disingenuous poster, in my opinion.

On 1/16/2018 at 1:54 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

Probably.  Sigh.  We know that Sikhi is open to all races, but you have to be careful when white people start taking your culture.  Are they starting these gurudwara just because they are good Sikhs and the community needs a gurudwara?  Or are they suffering from a lack of culture and trying to appropriate someone else's, and feel the need to be in control themselves out of lust for power and ego?

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15 hours ago, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

Gurjant....let's get some things out in the open here:

You've been making little digs at me from day one...for no reason whatsoever....and I'm not allowed to respond ?

I think if someone becomes an Amritdhari he/she should live by the rules of being an Amritdhari....but I'm not allowed to say this ?

I think we should break away from our Indian mentality of showering politicians (leaders) with reverence and respect and hold them to a much higher threshold of ethics and morality.....but I'm not allowed to say this ?

I believe all politicians - of every colour, creed and persuasion - should always be taken down a peg or two to remind them of who it is that gives them that 'power'.....but I'm not allowed to say this ?

I believe things should be taken away from the rich and privileged and given to the poor (something I practice in my own life as a privileged 3rd generation western born) . Now you may not agree with this but as it my politico-socio ethical view am I not allowed to say it ?

From day one, I've always stated my views on this forum. I'm a regular on football forums and say awful things about other teams and their supporters....as do they about me and my team. Most of my free  time is spent on skyscraper city forum talking city demographics and I and they love to say awful things about each other's cities sometimes....all good natured because at the end of the day we all respect that great difference in opinion and outlook and celebrate the fact that that is what makes us human.  I'm not here to be liked...I've got enough people that like me.  I'm not here to make friends...I've got enough friends. I state my thoughts on philosophy, history, society here..that's all I do. If you like my views like them....if you don't then don't but understand that abuse will always be met with abuse.

 

p.s   As for the 'jealous' crab mentality you keep mentioning, you need to know that my family is a hair-cut family and I, my wife and children are the only ones that have kept kesh in my entire extended family. For us, that has been a recent decision and all my family would rather I cut my hair and went back to my bad old days. So if I wanted what Jagmeet Singh got I could, if I wanted, do that tomorrow. There's no jelousy involved my friend. When I took Amrit I did it with the responsibility of living within the rules of being Amritdhari. Jagmeet Singh took Amrit. If he couldn't live with the rules of doing it he shouldn't have. If he did it and he still doesn't care about the rules of what it entails he should be held to account....especially as a role model for amritdharis. So I ask you again.....why am I not allowed to point this out ? And why does me pointing this out result in me receiving insults ?

 

This is a place of discourse. I just express my opinion. Our views are simply from different angles. I bear you no ill will. 

Say what you like. I will do the same. I agree with you occasionally and have quoted you favorably. I'd like your posts sometimes but I can't due to your forum bans. 

What I won't do is suggest you kill yourself. Also I won't be insulted or intimidated into silence. 

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9 hours ago, GuestSingh said:

JosephAgnostic one - you will only reinforce the arrogance, self-righteousness and hypocrisy that runs in the blood of 'wypipo', as he, quite weirdly, likes to say when referring to his own kind.

Thanks for the inacurate insult veer ji. You're free to not like my being here. 

I don't identify with being wasp, and I stand by my warning whether you think it applies to me or not. 

My family has been fighting whites for a thousand years and my culture is different. But yes I have melanin deficient skin. 

And my pasty self is content to be the target of your discontent, and will continue to better myself and learn here within the Sangat. 

Cultural exchange is healthy and cultural appropriation isn't. Perhaps you will one day learn and appreciate the difference. 

Believe what you like. Say what you like. 

I've accurately and truthfully represented who I am since day one. 

I still stand by my asertation that the person you reference was a troll. 

Hate on haters. 

Maybe learn what agnostic means. 

Edit: oh and thanks for digging through that petition and posting my real name. Real classy. As said above, I won't be intimidated away. 

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On 09/02/2018 at 9:42 AM, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

OK, so I started a thread on this Gupt / Anonymous page: the 'Amritdharis marrying hair-cut spouses' thread. It's received 5000 odd views, people on other websites and online forums have been discussing it and there's like a hundred questions directed directly at me on that thread. But....the admin here had decided to move it to the main page where I can't answer any of the questions you keep throwing at me So, first of all, please stop asking me questions on that thread....I can't answer them on that page. Secondly, someone accused me of using profanities after observing the censored title thread. Let me clear that one up by saying I do not use profanities in my life  and that censored bit was actually the letters 'w' and 't' and 'f' which the swear word filter on this forum doesn't like when you put those 3 letters together.

Now, let's start with Sukhi Virk who demonstrated just how low her IQ is when she said this:

Someone needs to sit Sukhi down and explain to her that the word 'evangelism' is as Christian as the cross. It cannot be used to describe any religion other than Christianity as it is a word that was invented precisely to spread the 'good word' of Christianity. The word would be defined as some who is 100% committed to Christianity.

 

Life is beautiful said :

Isn't that the whole point of that thread ? The fact that an 'Amritdhari' role model...who markets and sells his product as an 'Amritdhari' has been found out to be a fraud when it comes to living the life of, and following the rules of,  an 'Amritdhari' ?

'He' is not Joe Bloggs, a local builder from Localsville. He is a Politician....who wants to get elected as a lawmaker. But even though that means he shoud be held accountable for hypocricy it doesn't matter who he wants to marry. None of us care what any individual does and wants to do in their own private life. But that discussion is not about him as an individual...It's about an Amritdhari thinking his money and power can buy his way out of the rules of being an 'Amritdhari'. It's about him pretending to be an Amritdhari but not being able to live by the rules of being Amritdhari.

I think the real level of immaturity is the fact that your IQ is so low it will not allow you too see the "reason" is his pretence of being an 'Amritdhari' in order to sell his product but lacking the fibre and strength to live by the rules of being an 'Amritdhari'.

 

Koi said:

To which wedding though ? :) He's having 2: the one he's inviting Hello Magazine to in Toronto and then another one on the beach in Mexico. There was a thread here a while ago about a rogue Sikh granthi (Freedom Singh) who is performing anand karajs on innapropriate settings on the beaches of Mexico despite being warned by Akal takht not to. I think we should all be watching Freedom Singh's schedule to see if coincides with Jagmeet's trip there. :)

 

At the end of the day.....as the mainstream Canadian media was aghast that a politician of Canada's most minor party had such a 'Kardashian' high opinion of himself (ego) that he tipped off media photographers that he was going to propose to his girlfriend at a certain time in a certain restaurant. This elite school privately educated son of a millionaire is a walking / talking PR machine. Just another rich boy, like Trump, that thinks his money, power and prestige can buy him priveledges. He's as fake as they come.

Hey girlfriend if you want to quote me and talk about then at least invite me to the party.. Starting a new thread and chatting sheeeet acting like a bad man is really undermined by being a diva.. 

It would also help to have a reasoned conversation if you actually made sense.. In your post you said.. 

"

Now, let's start with Sukhi Virk who demonstrated just how low her IQ is when she said this:

Someone needs to sit Sukhi down and explain to her that the word 'evangelism' is as Christian as the cross. It cannot be used to describe any religion other than Christianity as it is a word that was invented precisely to spread the 'good word' of Christianity. The word would be defined as some who is 100% committed to Christianity."

 

Sherlock I'm sure  you will observe that you haven't actually quoted me. So please qualify what she said.. Lol 

 

Evangelism, evangelising is not as limited to what you call it.. And if you believe that and you believe only Christians can evangelise then by your own definition you are a Christian.. Lol 

People who prosthylise are evangelists regardless of what they are talking about 

 

 

 

On 10/02/2018 at 9:58 AM, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

I could have sworn it was a girl BHS but, the fact that I got his sex wrong, as everybody on this forum often does, is hardly a big deal. If it was....you'd be sending rebuke messages to everyone on this forum that has mistakenly called a panji a paaji and vice versa but you don't do that do you ?  No, because you are a lemming....afraid of your own self....you instictiveley follow what you think is the pack.

 

And then there's the new humourless one dimensional guy from North America that likes to write the most mundane blindingly obvious things on the internet : Gurjant Gnostic :) :

First of all Gurjant, you need to be aware that being a socialist doesn't carry the same negative connotations in Europe that it does in your part of the world. Here, it is the norm, with conservatism considered the extreme.

So lets get this abundantly straight:  You are saying when we Sikhs see an Amritdhari breaking the rules of being an Amritdhari (such as smoking, drinking alcohol, having an affair with a non-amritdhari, marrying a non-amritdhari) we are suppoosed to keep our mouths shut ?  And if we do point out that it is wrong that makes us evil and wrong ?

 

 

Seriously though Gurjant I'm going to very honest with you. I've been on this forum a long time and you are without a doubt the most pathetic poster I have come across, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. Given your personality and gift of having no gifts I think you should at least the consider suicide as a possible option. I mean the inability to spot a jesus / woody allen comparison showed your complete dullness on a humour level and then you go on to write the most boring things this forum has ever seen. The dullness of your personality is maninfested in your posting in other ways too as we see your posts appear on a hour lock basis, i.e a man with no humour and personality has no friends and has no life so posts messages on the internet at 3AM, 8AM, 4PM, 1AM, 5:30AM..2PM....6PM.....9PM     .you name the PM and AM and you can be sure Gurjant Gnostic has posted a boring message at that time. Seriously mate, I'm just saying, don't rule out suicide. I'm not saying do it but sometimes it is the answer and you have taken dull and mundane to a whole new level on this forum. Just sayin'.

Disengenuous should be your name 

 

On 11/02/2018 at 10:57 AM, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

think if someone becomes an Amritdhari he/she should live by the rules of being an Amritdhari....but I'm not allowed to say this ?

Your already saying it girlfriend! Lol 

Try living in chardi kala and not as a victim 

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A very serious question : Is this Sukhi Virk character on drugs ?  :hairan:   Hand on my heart, I did not understand a single word of what he or she was trying to say in that last message.

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For those with social media accounts why not message him directly and see what the crack is..I met him once way before the announcement, seemed like a genuine fella. Maybe we should reserve judgement until they tie the knot and see if she changes for those that are bothered. 

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1 hour ago, InderjitS said:

For those with social media accounts why not message him directly and see what the crack is..I met him once way before the announcement, seemed like a genuine fella. Maybe we should reserve judgement until they tie the knot and see if she changes for those that are bothered. 

I emailed his campaign, as I don't facebook. Still looking forward to a response. 

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45 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I emailed his campaign, as I don't facebook. Still looking forward to a response. 

yeah I'm not on fb, insta, twit...where he is relatively active.

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7 hours ago, InderjitS said:

For those with social media accounts why not message him directly and see what the crack is..I met him once way before the announcement, seemed like a genuine fella. Maybe we should reserve judgement until they tie the knot and see if she changes for those that are bothered. 

Bro you can ask me anything you want here 

 

5 hours ago, InderjitS said:

yeah I'm not on fb, insta, twit...where he is relatively active.

I'm flattered that you have spent some time looking for me online 

 

5 hours ago, InderjitS said:

yeah I'm not on fb, insta, twit...where he is relatively active.

I'm pretty active on Facebook and whilst I do have a twitter and Instagram account don't really use them I wouldn't say I was active on either of the two latter apps.. 

It's easy to find me since I don't have a username that hides my identity.. 

What you sow is what you reap, for better or for worse, my interpretation may be wrong and I'm happy to modify my opinions if convinced.. 

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On 10/02/2018 at 9:58 AM, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

 Seriously mate, I'm just saying, don't rule out suicide. I'm not saying do it but sometimes it is the answer and you have taken dull and mundane to a whole new level on this forum. Just sayin'.

Jagsaw jagsaw.....

What kind of crass, delusional winker considers themselves to be a good pious sikh, and then asks someone else to commit suicide because they disagree with your constant horse sh1t?

Quite frankly, you are the scum of the kaum in my view, stereotypical keyboard warrior, driving around in your hybrid looking for a reason to be controversial and start waving your kirpan around your head.

You reveal your low IQ in every one of your damn posts.

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