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"Sikh separatists in Canada drawing ire in Indian media before Trudeau visit"

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What are your thoughts on this recent article?

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/sikh-separatists-in-canada-drawing-ire-in-indian-media-before-trudeau-visit-1.3792889

 

Here are my thoughts:

 

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Some 16 MPs of Sikh origin were elected in 2015, says the magazine, which also blames Canada's allowance for free speech about human rights for giving "free reign" to more fundamentalist language that has led to the "radical capture of key gurdwaras."

You know you are on the wrong side of history, when you attack freedom of speech. 

 

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"Sikh religious successionism threatening the Indian Constitution assumes proportions of official policy status in Ottawa as Punjab Police books four Canadian residents for gun-running and terror-funding."

"Sikh relgious sucessionism"? LoL!

Have they ever read Sikh history or Gurbani? Its common sense to those who are educated on Sikhi that the Sikh Panth is meant to be distinct from others and be independent. The Khalsa is literally meant to be a sovereign army and institution all in one, that only answer's to the Guru, that by itself isnt legal in another country, and its a pretty obvious hint that the Guru clearly taught Sikhs to be independent, but of course. But of course all this means nothing becuase most "Sikhs" in India dont support it, which must mean its a radical idea, even if its backed up by history and bani... 

 

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The issue comes just as India prepares to welcome Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for his first state visit later this month.

Of course its going to come up coincidentally when a Prime Minister visits India, what better time to attack Sikhs. 

 

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The articles accuse the Canadian government of allowing Sikh separatist movements to flourish and list four Canadians that Indian authorities are said to want for allegedly supplying weapons and funding terrorism in India.

One could make the argument that the Indian government lets Hindu right wing national movements flourish, and there's actually proof that India got a German official to spy on Sikhs. Or what about that time that that. If you wanna talk about state sponsored terrorism. there's a lot of accusations India has gotten, but the problem with them is that they dont care. 

Read article: German official charged with spying on Sikhs for India : https://www.thelocal.de/20160920/german-official-charged-with-spying-on-sikhs-for-india

India State Sponsored Terrorism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-sponsored_terrorism#India

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The magazine also includes a Q and A segment with Punjab Chief Minister Amarinder Singh, who says there appears to be "Khalistani sympathizers in Trudeau's cabinet." That allegation meant last April Singh refused to meet with Sajjan when Sajjan was in India.

Amarinder Sengh is a meme at this point, he will say anything to tarnish the reputations of Sikhs abroad. He is salty that international Sikhs are making it, and that him and his third world government are losing their power over the Sikh community. At this point, who cares what that ladoo has to say? its obvious hes doing this as part of his personal smear campaign.  

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1 hour ago, TheeTurbanator said:

You know you are on the wrong side of history, when you attack freedom of speech. 

True that. 

1 hour ago, TheeTurbanator said:

"Sikh relgious sucessionism"? LoL!

Nice partition Britain. Real classy. Real humanitarian. Great job. 

Khalistan zindabad!

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I'm glad prominent Sikh representation in the Canadian government is annoying the Indian regime. It's amusing to see the Indian government constantly raise concerns and undermine foreign Sikhs to whichever western government it deals with at the time, almost suggesting that one key condition of Indian cooperation hinges on how well the western government in question undermines its Sikh population under the flimsy pretence of preventing "extremism." Unfortunately, Indian economic influence means they are, and will be, heard to a certain degree.

It's so obvious how the Indian apparatus wants the Sikh diaspora to be toothless, voiceless, and powerless. Seeing Canadian Sikhs in somewhat influential and visible roles in Canadian politics must be so galling for India. British Sikhs would do well to follow their example when it comes to political engagement and involvement.

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19 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

I'm glad prominent Sikh representation in the Canadian government is annoying the Indian regime. It's amusing to see the Indian government constantly raise concerns and undermine foreign Sikhs to whichever western government it deals with at the time, almost suggesting that one key condition of Indian cooperation hinges on how well the western government in question undermines its Sikh population under the flimsy pretence of preventing "extremism." Unfortunately, Indian economic influence means they are, and will be, heard to a certain degree.

It's so obvious how the Indian apparatus wants the Sikh diaspora to be toothless, voiceless, and powerless. Seeing Canadian Sikhs in somewhat influential and visible roles in Canadian politics must be so galling for India. British Sikhs would do well to follow their example when it comes to political engagement and involvement.

Good luck there, the ones in power are either completely retarded or simply in it for their own means. 

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11 minutes ago, Kira said:

Good luck there, the ones in power are either completely retarded or simply in it for their own means. 

This is true for the most part, especially probably for Canada which has a cabinet chosen based on gender, ethnicity, etc. However, there are rare cases like Jagmeet Singh who don’t just wear a turban, but are actually practicing Sikhi to a high degree. 

Sikhs need to branch out and not to commit to much to India, and really disperse themselves more across the globe in order to gain a foodhold for future generations. 

If the international Sikh community can create strongholds outside India and gain some publicity or political power, then they can really start to challenge India in the public sphere, however there is only so much they can do. Most Sikhs in India are simply screwed in terms of politics due to the massive amounts of corruption Unless Sikhs start to unite and take back Punjab, it’s over. 

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11 minutes ago, Kira said:

Good luck there, the ones in power are either completely retarded or simply in it for their own means. 

In Canada? That's a shame. I thought there'd be at least a few who are fighting the good fight. 

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6 hours ago, TheeTurbanator said:

One of the things you get right is to quote and respond to an article (allowing us to make a choice as whether it's worth our while to click through), as opposed to merely posting a link with no rhyme or reason as to why we should care.

In the interview with Outlook India, Capt. Amrinder Singh made the accusation that there were secessionists in the Canadian cabinet, but offered no proof whatsoever. I believe the idea that there are secessionists in the Canadian cabinet is simply fantastical.

He also said that he would not engage with a prime minister of Canada (Sikh or not) that had an antagonistic attitude toward India. However, you don't have that choice when you're the head of a state (or government). Don't China  and the US have an antagonistic attitude towards each other? And yet Xi and Trump still met, and continue to work with each other.

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15 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

In Canada? That's a shame. I thought there'd be at least a few who are fighting the good fight. 

meant the UK bro. Things are messy here at best.

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17 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

I'm glad prominent Sikh representation in the Canadian government is annoying the Indian regime. It's amusing to see the Indian government constantly raise concerns and undermine foreign Sikhs to whichever western government it deals with at the time, almost suggesting that one key condition of Indian cooperation hinges on how well the western government in question undermines its Sikh population under the flimsy pretence of preventing "extremism." Unfortunately, Indian economic influence means they are, and will be, heard to a certain degree.

It's so obvious how the Indian apparatus wants the Sikh diaspora to be toothless, voiceless, and powerless. Seeing Canadian Sikhs in somewhat influential and visible roles in Canadian politics must be so galling for India. British Sikhs would do well to follow their example when it comes to political engagement and involvement.

true that they were upset that preet Gill was upgraded to be part of the shadow cabinet because it also gave her a wider platform to insist on sikh manifesto issues and the Jaggi Johal case.

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16 hours ago, BhForce said:

One of the things you get right is to quote and respond to an article (allowing us to make a choice as whether it's worth our while to click through), as opposed to merely posting a link with no rhyme or reason as to why we should care.

In the interview with Outlook India, Capt. Amrinder Singh made the accusation that there were secessionists in the Canadian cabinet, but offered no proof whatsoever. I believe the idea that there are secessionists in the Canadian cabinet is simply fantastical.

He also said that he would not engage with a prime minister of Canada (Sikh or not) that had an antagonistic attitude toward India. However, you don't have that choice when you're the head of a state (or government). Don't China  and the US have an antagonistic attitude towards each other? And yet Xi and Trump still met, and continue to work with each other.

Amrinder is a total buffoon he still hasn't cleaned the egg  from his face from last year's fast and furious attacks on Sajjan and Canadians  that there was a plot to get him  etc etc...which was checked on twice by RCMP and then chucked out

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