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Some Questions for Nirvair Khalsa Jatha

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Just in case Harinder Singh and his NKJ read this, some honest questions :

1) You (the Nirvair Khalsa Jatha) were already registered at Companies House as a charity, which is totally right in accordance with the 'seva' you are performing....so why did NKJ register a separate profit making company at Companies House at the end of October 2017 ?

2) You (Harinder Singh) have yourself listed at Companies House as 'unemployed' and so, in your twenties and without a job, how did you manage to buy that £500,000 (£1.5 million in London prices) house Companies House has you as living in without the need for a mortgage.....i.e cash.......i.e. where did the money come from ?

3) A further check of the electoral roll reveals that just a ' Harinder Hayre' and another 20 something male live at that address. With Sikhi advocating a normal married lifestyle for all Sikhs and a hundred thousand daughters of the shaheeds of 1984 living destitute lives without saviour husbands why is the main man of NKJ living with a mystery 20 something year old male ?

4) While NKJ come to Sikh areas to lecture why is it that Companies House shows every member of NKJ living in all-white towns way from traditional areas with the leader living in a remote all-white village ?

5) Why does NKJ lecture everyone about using the name 'Singh' rather than what they call 'caste surnames' and yet Companies House, the Electoral Roll and every official entity has Harinder Singh using the name Harinder Hayre in everything he does away from his sermons to us and the rest of the group also do the same ?

and, finally..........

6) Why does the Director's business interests search through Companies House reveal that the main source of income of 2 of the NKJ group is.....'predominately Tobacco' ?

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Maya follows those who follow God. They do wonderful kirtan. At the end of it... he did mention that he has never had to beg for anything.  The youth go to listen to them.  Its genuinely earned money. So what if they have a beautiful car and house. .. it is all the wish if God. 

Why slander those who guide you to God? Do we ourselves have the dhaat to perform amazing kirtan like them?

We all paid from our jobs. No one forces us to donate to the poor. 

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I'm sure the Gurus had some nice things, they just weren't attached to them. Remember aversion and attachment are two sides of the same coin, an ego desire for or against. 

If like televangelists they lied or stole to get it, that's not right, but have a jag or don't have a jag by honest means. 

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1 hour ago, SikhInTheMaking said:

white Jaguar XJ brand new parked up outside with the number plate "NKJ"

With that much money, poor choice of car - could well be a 'gift'. I do like the added touch of it being white, if ever there was a colour associated with Babey..

 

19 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I'm sure the Gurus had some nice things, they just weren't attached to them

One thing I learned early on is to never compare mere mortals with Guru Ji.

I've listened to them online a few times, I think his heart is in the right place but for me there is no substance and he does like to sprinkle masala, just like Dhadhrianwala to captivate the sangat.

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My point wasnt about the white jag, it was more about the jatha in general. I just find the whole jatha very theatrical with the guy on the keyboard in the back and the chants and movements in sync with each other..... pretty sure our gurus didnt have a keyboard and a mic with an echo effect to make them sound more godly - they just seemed very fake to me. I know im gonna offend people by saying that but i honestly felt like i was being deceived by all these special effects etc 

When someone sits there telling you to forget your worldly possessions and stop trying to impress each other by competing with cars money houses etc. and then have a car like that outside its very hypocritical 

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1 hour ago, SikhInTheMaking said:

im leaving the gurdwara they have a white Jaguar XJ brand new parked up outside with the number plate "NKJ"

VJKK VJKF

Maybe the number plate was a bit over the top but having a nice car doesn't necessarily mean that they are hypocrites for talking about maya and money and attachment Ji. It's not about what you have, it's about how you act when you no longer have it. They may have a certain amount of money, with Maharaj Kirpa, and were able to buy an XJ however, that doesn't mean they're totally attached to it Ji. I'm sure we all know that attachment is wrong and we practice detachment but we all also have the latest iPhones and TVs. And if we had guests come to our homes and we did some veechar about attachment and how it's wrong with them and they leave our homes and say to each other "Singh/Bibi, had a 4K TV and was banging on about attachment to me ... rendhe" then I'm sure we would be a bit offended because they may not know that we do practice detachment and that if tomorrow our TV stopped working we wouldn't be so sad and upset, because we practice what we preach Ji. This is not an attack on you Ji. I'm just saying this in general Ji. Maaf Karna Ji.

Vaheguru Ji.

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1 minute ago, SikhInTheMaking said:

My point wasnt about the white jag, it was more about the jatha in general. I just find the whole jatha very theatrical with the guy on the keyboard in the back and the chants and movements in sync with each other..... pretty sure our gurus didnt have a keyboard and a mic with an echo effect to make them sound more godly - they just seemed very fake to me. I know im gonna offend people by saying that but i honestly felt like i was being deceived by all these special effects etc 

not deceived 'DAZZLED'

I like their tunes, and the syncing of the shene is so old now they need to try something new...suggestions on a postcard please.

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2 minutes ago, SikhInTheMaking said:

...but i honestly felt like i was being deceived by all these special effects etc 

Don't ever attempt to silence or suppress the voice inside you that provides you with such insight. 

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