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British Government Confirms Jagtar Singh Has Been Tortured

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5 hours ago, imhosingh said:

Civil disobedience is the only thing that gets policy to change, hence why the authorities pander to certain communities that are known to kick off if they don't get what they want.

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7 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

Very true brother. I normally don't sign petitions or go to the '84 march, personally feel that it's a waste of time. I just thought I'd post it here because this one is actually pretty close to the target and on the off chance it might make a difference.

Sikh Youth UK are urging people to send letters to Jaggi which while being very thoughtful, isn't particularly well advised.

this is how amnesty puts pressure on prisons holding political prisoners , it has affect ... we need to do it all as a kaum , get the names and send the letters every week, soon the wardens will be bitching to GOI . The letters are addressed to the individual prisoners and written to them ..

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11 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

this is how amnesty puts pressure on prisons holding political prisoners , it has affect ... we need to do it all as a kaum , get the names and send the letters every week, soon the wardens will be bitching to GOI . The letters are addressed to the individual prisoners and written to them ..

Who knows if the letters even reach the prisoner.

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6 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

Who knows if the letters even reach the prisoner.

that's not the point: sackloads of letters create work and hassle for the postal system, the censors, the prison staffon a daily and weekly basis , it's kind of spamming in the real world for a good reason . A lot of Prisoners will get told through the prison grapevine that so many letters are arriving for them, it helps give them honsla that they are not forgotten ...all for the price of a stamp .

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6 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

that's not the point: sackloads of letters create work and hassle for the postal system, the censors, the prison staffon a daily and weekly basis , it's kind of spamming in the real world for a good reason . A lot of Prisoners will get told through the prison grapevine that so many letters are arriving for them, it helps give them honsla that they are not forgotten ...all for the price of a stamp .

When you put it like that it does make sense I guess. When I read that Sikh Youth UK were telling people to do this it instantly sounded like a bad idea and still does because the unwitting will put their names in the letter. They should make a point to tell people not to.

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7 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

When you put it like that it does make sense I guess. When I read that Sikh Youth UK were telling people to do this it instantly sounded like a bad idea and still does because the unwitting will put their names in the letter. They should make a point to tell people not to.

Well apparently the Indian government already monitors social media.  Then when you go there to get married they put a sack over your head and torture you with no charges, and no due process.

Most of us already signed that petition, probably with our real names.

They're probably already monitoring sites like this one, whether we agree on who is a troll and not, I think we've all felt their presence already

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7 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

When you put it like that it does make sense I guess. When I read that Sikh Youth UK were telling people to do this it instantly sounded like a bad idea and still does because the unwitting will put their names in the letter. They should make a point to tell people not to.

Basically they should do it like Amnesty, has a template letter to work from ...

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9 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

I agree with you brother. What form do you think?

For a start veere, we haven't the first idea of how to protest. We turn up, we stand around chit chat whilst the elders make speech after speech in punjabi and the authorities just let us do our thing. Take a look at any one of our protests in London, the UK capital. Next no police presence. Why? Because they know we won't step out of line. We're too damn complaisant. They're not the least bit bothered. The one time the police got involved (which in turn got the media involved) is when we decided to block a busy London road? Do you recall the cause of that protest? The point is, we need to up our game. Court  arrests. Be willing to make sacrifices. Sitting at home emailing standardised letters to MP's who couldn't care less, isn't going to get us far quick enough. Jagtar Singhs life is in real danger. We all know that.

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3 hours ago, S4NGH said:

For a start veere, we haven't the first idea of how to protest. We turn up, we stand around chit chat whilst the elders make speech after speech in punjabi and the authorities just let us do our thing.

Also, how we unenthusiastically throw the fist of rebellion in the air while whispering monotonous naare.

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13 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Well apparently the Indian government already monitors social media.  Then when you go there to get married they put a sack over your head and torture you with no charges, and no due process.

Most of us already signed that petition, probably with our real names.

They're probably already monitoring sites like this one, whether we agree on who is a troll and not, I think we've all felt their presence already

Yeah I'm aware of this brother but in Jaggi's case it wasn't just social media per se. Telling the general public to send letters, some of which may not be on social media, is a risky business.

I'm sure this site came up during the Brar case.

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1 minute ago, MrDoaba said:

Yeah I'm aware of this brother but in Jaggi's case it wasn't just social media per se. Telling the general public to send letters, some of which may not be on social media, is a risky business.

I'm sure this site came up during the Brar case.

Now more than ever social media surveillance will be a hive of activity. I don't think anyone here is likely to be under investigation just for discussing cases, ultimately who knows where they set the bar. Back in the 80s & 90s don't forget, all Amritdharis were considered a threat.

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11 minutes ago, InderjitS said:

Now more than ever social media surveillance will be a hive of activity. I don't think anyone here is likely to be under investigation just for discussing cases, ultimately who knows where they set the bar. Back in the 80s & 90s don't forget, all Amritdharis were considered a threat.

Just have to be careful with your words and be vigilant. They have bigger threats than the pakhandis here.

Plus my friends in the gorment will help me out incase of any trouble.

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30 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

Just have to be careful with your words and be vigilant. They have bigger threats than the pakhandis here.

Plus my friends in the gorment will help me out incase of any trouble.

Kion Theresa teri Chachi Lagdhi?

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32 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

careful with your words and be vigilant

Like Modi <banned word filter activated> maro juta?

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