If I follow a Human Guru, but respect the Guru Granth Sahib as also a Guru, then am I a Sikh?

[TheeTurbanator]

If I follow human Gurus after Guru Gobind Singh Ji, and I believe that he gave the Guruship to others. I still respect the Granth Sahib, but I don’t follow it as a final Guru.  

Am I still considered a Sikh according to Gurbani? Is there anything in Gurbani saying I can’t be a Sikh? 

Serious question 

[MrDoaba]

Not sure but this video might help:

 

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, TheeTurbanator said:

If I follow human Gurus after Guru Gobind Singh Ji, and I believe that he gave the Guruship to others. I still respect the Granth Sahib, but I don’t follow it as a final Guru.  

Am I still considered a Sikh according to Gurbani? Is there anything in Gurbani saying I can’t be a Sikh? 

Serious question 

Naamdharis are not gurus, end of

[MrDoaba]

7 minutes ago, Singh123456777 said:

Naamdharis are not gurus, end of

That was rather simple wasn't it. Lol

[TheeTurbanator]

37 minutes ago, Singh123456777 said:

Naamdharis are not gurus, end of

I know, but thats not what the Namdharis think. They believe in the SGGSJ as the Guru, but not the final Guru. My question is that can someone not believe in SGGSJ as the final Guru and be defined as a "Sikh" according to Bani? 

[Kira]

23 minutes ago, TheeTurbanator said:

I know, but thats not what the Namdharis think. They believe in the SGGSJ as the Guru, but not the final Guru. My question is that can someone not believe in SGGSJ as the final Guru and be defined as a "Sikh" according to Bani? 

no.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, TheeTurbanator said:

I know, but thats not what the Namdharis think. They believe in the SGGSJ as the Guru, but not the final Guru. My question is that can someone not believe in SGGSJ as the final Guru and be defined as a "Sikh" according to Bani? 

Do you want to become naamdhari? If not then what is it too you?

[Guest]

3 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

That was rather simple wasn't it. Lol

Yes it was, no point in beating around the bush

[sikhni777]

Naam is the one that defines mukti. A Guru is the one who guides you towards the naam. It is your choice whether you want to respect your Guru or not.  

Naamdharis jap naam more than SGGS believers. At the end of your life, your Guru is supposed to come and deliver you. 

Shabad is the Guru. If you jap naam then naam will deliver you.  Their Guru helps them jap naam and that is what is more important for them.  

People are allowed to follow different paths to the same destination.  Who are we to judge them if we ourselves do not follow the words of our Guru - SGGS - Which forbids us to judge others. Hum nahi chan-ge bhurha nahi koi.

So the tables turn on us - which of us follow the teachings of their Gurus better? 

There have been other Gurus in the past before our ten Gurus.  So was mukti not available then? Yes it was. It is all upto the devotion of the devotee. You can pray to a stone like Bhagat dhanna jut and God will still come and save you.  So devotion is the more important aspect here. Look at yourself deeply and leave others alone.

[jkvlondon]

2 hours ago, TheeTurbanator said:

I know, but thats not what the Namdharis think. They believe in the SGGSJ as the Guru, but not the final Guru. My question is that can someone not believe in SGGSJ as the final Guru and be defined as a "Sikh" according to Bani? 

you cannot believe Dasmesh Pita ji then how are able to claim belief in the Jot of Guru Nanak Dev ji ? If you cannot obey Guru Nanak Dev ji's jot then how are you a sikh? Guru Nanak Dev ji said This is your Guru forever there will be no other dehdhari Guru literally and they choose another ...so on all levels they are being hypocrites