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51 minutes ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Can you please provide some sources 

1. no J in hebrew alphabet

2. the text of the bible indicates the season of the census,  , during winter it is bitterly cold in the region and sheep are not grazed outside in the hills then.

3. YULE/Jul

https://nationaldaycalendar.com/yule-day-of-winter-solstice/

https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/december-solstice-customs.html

4.

https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/biblical-evidence-shows-jesus-christ-wasnt-born-on-dec-25

5. keeping eyes and ears open it is SAnta who everyone talks about not the Christos

https://www.historicmysteries.com/santa-claus-and-krampus/

https://mymerrychristmas.com/the-misunderstood-legend-of-krampus/

6. cmon are you kidding?

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44 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

1. no J in hebrew alphabet

2. the text of the bible indicates the season of the census,  , during winter it is bitterly cold in the region and sheep are not grazed outside in the hills then.

3. YULE/Jul

https://nationaldaycalendar.com/yule-day-of-winter-solstice/

https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/december-solstice-customs.html

4.

https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/biblical-evidence-shows-jesus-christ-wasnt-born-on-dec-25

5. keeping eyes and ears open it is SAnta who everyone talks about not the Christos

https://www.historicmysteries.com/santa-claus-and-krampus/

https://mymerrychristmas.com/the-misunderstood-legend-of-krampus/

6. cmon are you kidding?

Nobody knows when he was actually born.. You in point one asserted quite strongly that he was born in the summer 

 

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12 minutes ago, superkaur said:

I think we should make a point of exchanging gifts with close friends and family when celebrating vaisakhi, bandhi shord diwas or guru nanak Ji's birthday in 2018. Bring back the joy and spirit of our own festivals

vaheguru ji ka khalsa
vaheguru ji ki fateh, ji

I thought most families gift presents during diwali anyways? People just like exchanging gifts loll vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

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11 hours ago, superkaur said:

I think we should make a point of exchanging gifts with close friends and family when celebrating vaisakhi, bandhi shord diwas or guru nanak Ji's birthday in 2018. Bring back the joy and spirit of our own festivals

Should we exchange gifts on all our God's birthdays? Or just the first God?

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19 hours ago, singhunit said:

Fateh

I have a tree for my children and no I am not a cocount. 

My children know their history but I also want them to integrate with their community, children at school etc. Yes I buy them also gift from santa as that's what they still believe in.

This is what I see with Muslims - so secluded from rest of the country/community that they live in - they think it's their way or the he highway.

Get the balance right.

Bhul chuk maaf

 

Why should a Sikh compromise on their faith just to appease the crowd?

A Sikh celebrating Christmas just for presents is like a Christian celebrating Bandi Chorr just for mittiayi in my eyes. Once boundaries  are crossed for personal gratification then where does it stop? Treating Sikhi like a sweet shop is why these Panjabi's/so-called 'Sikhs' are weak in their Sikhi.

There are other ways to achieve a balance e.g. socialising, but why should 'integration' be so important to us? Our community is settled here - we aren't suddenly going to lose our homes, businesses etc. and get kicked out of the uk by making less of an effort with goreh, kaleh etc. so what's the worst that's going to happen? We are already covertly suppressed by them and many probably see a sardar, particularly with blue dumalle, as terrorists. If they don't like us then that's their problem. Daas is going nowhere. Learn not to care like the <banned word filter activated>. Trying to fit into society weakens us because we go further from the Hukam of Guru ji, our numbers lessen and we become more whitewashed without even realising it.

ਜਬ ਲਗ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਰਹੇ ਨਿਆਰਾ ॥
While the Khalsa stays true,

ਤਬ ਲਗ ਤੇਜ ਕੀਉ ਮੈਂ ਸਾਰਾ ॥
I will offer my full support

ਜਬ ਇਹ ਗਹੈ ਬਿਪਰਨ ਕੀ ਰੀਤ ॥
When they follow the ways of others,

ਮੈਂ ਨ ਕਰੋਂ ਇਨ ਕੀ ਪ੍ਰਤੀਤ ॥
I will withdraw my assistance from them.

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14 hours ago, superkaur said:

I think we should make a point of exchanging gifts with close friends and family when celebrating vaisakhi, bandhi shord diwas or guru nanak Ji's birthday in 2018. Bring back the joy and spirit of our own festivals

I think you've lost the point , it's not about attaching maya to Guru Sahiban's lives and lessons  , we're not meant to celebrate like goray but perhaps read more of unread  gurbani, do vichar of it, and undertake to encourage more dastars, more naam, more amrit, more shastar vidhiya, more itihaas sharing ...not flippin' baking cakes , vanding samosey, pakorey, ladoos and mithaai

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Its about seting a good example to the youngsters. Kids are like sponges they absorb everything around them. If all the have is Christmas celebration and easter celebration. and no teaching or celebration of their own faith. 

how will these kids end up 5 10 years down the line. we are already seeing many of our youth becoming christian. yet the liberal fatsos. wont have it any other way.  They want to surround the impressionable youth with Christmas festivities. then when the same kids lose all belief in their own religion and go to other faiths. they cry. 

What may seem harmless to an adult is completely different to a child growing up. we must not send them confusing messages at this early age.

is it any wonder why alot of punjabis are the laughing stock. the have been brought up with zero knowledge of their own faith. yet plenty abut the virgin mary and jesus, presents, santa ect. its time to wake up and smell the coffee. dont bury your head in the sand. 

 

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