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So I took a Ethnicity DNA Test...

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After waiting ages to take a DNA test, I finally got around to it recently. The results were, for the most part, what I expected.

Here's my estimate:

Asia - 85.4%

  • South Asian - 79.9%
  • West Asian (Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Caucasus, Turkey) - 4.3%
  • Central Asian (Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazahkstan) - 1.4%

Europe - 14.6%

North and West Europe

  • Irish, Scottish, and Welsh - 11.6%
  • Scandinavian - 3.0%

Even though these are only estimates, they give an idea of my ethnicity in a broad sense. Nonetheless 14.6% is still considered a fairly large proportion in an estimate, and in all honesty was completely unexpected. My knowledge on DNA and genealogy are probably basic at best but from what I've read such a large percentage of the European could be traced back as early as the 5th or 6th generation before me!

This estimate didn't really tell me much as I would have liked to know so I decided to use GEDmatch to get a more in-depth picture. The results were certainly interesting (Jagsaw Singh if you're still around I'm sure you'll be the most pleased). For the sake of the topic I'll mention that I'm Punjabi Jatt.

This is what I found out:

Baloch - 37.94% (The term Baloch is used here to loosely describe Persian origin)

South Indian - 29.43% (South Indian here refers to indigenous or native Indian)

NE-Euro - 11.70% (oddly the Baltic region)

Caucasian  - 11.30% (Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan - again part of the Greater Persian Empire)

SW-Asian - 2.28% (ambiguously referring to Persian, Caucasian, and Arabian)

Mediterranean - 2.25% (most likely Greek, Cypriot, Turkish)

The rest is negligible.

You are also given an approximation how closely you are linked and compare to the individual populations of the sampling done by the genealogists, here are the top ten from highest to lowest:

1) Punjabi-Jatt-Sikh
2) Punjabi-Jatt-Muslim
3) Punjabi-Khatri
4) Pushtikar-Brahmin
5) Kashmiri-Pandit
6) Punjabi
7) Kashmiri
8) Punjabi-Brahmin
9) Rajasthani-Brahmin
10) Singapore-Indian

 

What do you think? I was surprised at some of the detail it went into and some of it was actually expected - I have always explained to people how we very likely had Persian and possibly some European ancestors. Although I probably won't, personally I would love to lay claim to my Persian heritage!

Has anybody here taken a test?

What labels, if any, do I use now...Persian Jatt  :rofl

I think the moral here is we shouldn't be so narrow-minded.

 

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6 minutes ago, Kira said:

 

LOL yeah yeah I took the generic one with a pinch of salt. The second one defo provides some insight though, if it's your kind of thing.

I'm an undercover RSS agent...see how closely I'm related to Brahmins.

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Ha ya Welsh sheep sha... 

That's crazy man. Could you share the link of the test you took? I'd like to give it a go

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3 minutes ago, S4NGH said:

Ha ya Welsh sheep sha... 

That's crazy man. Could you share the link of the test you took? I'd like to give it a go

Oye saala.

I took mine with MyHeritage. There's quite a few companies which do it but no point wasting money on the more expensive generic ones. Once you get your results make sure you use GEDmatch after for better results - it's free.

https://www.myheritage.com/login?destination_url=https%3A%2F%2F

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8 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

sorry to burst your bubble but such tests are mostly hyped 

https://www.livescience.com/7384-genetic-ancestry-tests-hype-scientists.html

Mate I do not fall for marketing so easily, and so naturally I did some reading before taking the test, and took it with a good dose of scepticism. I also took into account the companies' policy and disclaimer as well as general info on generic DNA testing, hence, my earlier comment about taking it with a pinch of salt. The link you provided is about 10 years old and DNA testing has come a long way since then, and unlike that article say, the test I took (like most generic companies today) looks at DNA from both the paternal and maternal line - which in most cases can only look at the last few hundred years or so. Still I see your point, it was quite vague and probabaly not as highly accurate as many would like it to be, then again they make it very clear that it's an estimate and that it gives you a rounded idea so it's not a wild guess either.

This is why I used GEDmatch - a free website created by professional genealogists with more utilities than aam janta would need. It's a no-frills site for people who are serious about genetics and genealogy and goes a bit further back to look for specific genetic markers. In order to use the site you only need your raw DNA data from the generic testing companies. The heritage/ethnicity tool they provide uses a large independent sample database which has calculators for specific reference populations which can pinpoint fairly well in my experience - this is evident from the fact that it picked up my Punjabi Jatt heritage. They've obviously done their work and I have no reason to dismiss the project, especially the one used for people with Asian origins.

All in all, there's nothing which is unusually surprising from my results - they seem to make the most logical sense according to history and geography. It's also worth mentioning that on both my paternal and maternal side, my grandparents, great grandparents, 2/3x great grandparents, great uncles and aunts had traits that tie in with my results - majority of them were very fair skinned, had light coloured eyes etc.

Up to you if you want to take them into consideration as an estimate, the second being rather accurate, or if you want to write the whole thing off as bullsh!t. We're all entitled to our opinions.

 

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11 minutes ago, MrDoaba said:

Mate I do not fall for marketing so easily, and so naturally I did some reading before taking the test, and took it with a good dose of scepticism. I also took into account the companies' policy and disclaimer as well as general info on generic DNA testing, hence, my earlier comment about taking it with a pinch of salt. The link you provided is about 10 years old and DNA testing has come a long way since then, and unlike that article say, the test I took (like most generic companies today) looks at DNA from both the paternal and maternal line - which in most cases can only look at the last few hundred years or so. Still I see your point, it was quite vague and probabaly not as highly accurate as many would like it to be, then again they make it very clear that it's an estimate and that it gives you a rounded idea so it's not a wild guess either.

This is why I used GEDmatch - a free website created by professional genealogists with more utilities than aam janta would need. It's a no-frills site for people who are serious about genetics and genealogy and goes a bit further back to look for specific genetic markers. In order to use the site you only need your raw DNA data from the generic testing companies. The heritage/ethnicity tool they provide uses a large independent sample database which has calculators for specific reference populations which can pinpoint fairly well in my experience - this is evident from the fact that it picked up my Punjabi Jatt heritage. They've obviously done their work and I have no reason to dismiss the project, especially the one used for people with Asian origins.

All in all, there's nothing which is unusually surprising from my results - they seem to make the most logical sense according to history and geography. It's also worth mentioning that on both my paternal and maternal side, my grandparents, great grandparents, 2/3x great grandparents, great uncles and aunts had traits that tie in with my results - majority of them were very fair skinned, had light coloured eyes etc.

Up to you if you want to take them into consideration as an estimate, the second being rather accurate, or if you want to write the whole thing off as bullsh!t. We're all entitled to our opinions.

 

tell me just one simple thing .

How does it change your life or kaum by knowing where you originated from ? It can only help one's ego to know that they're 15% european or .. you know .... a part of so called "elite"  race 

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I don't think it matters where you come from, to be honest. 

Does it affect your Sikhi, even in the slightest way?

If you are just doing it to find your history (somehow), then go ahead.

 

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1 minute ago, monatosingh said:

I don't think it matters where you come from, to be honest. 

Does it affect your Sikhi, even in the slightest way?

If you are just doing it to find your history (somehow), then go ahead.

 

we all originated in africa . 

No rudeness intended to OP but honestly we're faced with so many dire issues in kaum that needs our immediate attention :/ 

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4 minutes ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

tell me just one simple thing .

How does it change your life or kaum by knowing where you originated from ? It can only help one's ego to know that they're 15% european or .. you know .... a part of so called "elite"  race 

It doesn't, that's not why I took the test. I did it out of sheer curiosity, it's human nature to want to know your origins, and kade kade shaunk vi pura karna penda ah, no? It's had absolutely no impact on my life and it's not gonna. If the scientific side has no significance to you, then just see it as a bit of fun.

And no where in my post indicates I have an inflated ego brother, did you not read the Jatt joke? If any anything I put my results here in opposition to those who act elitist - infact some people I've mentioned the test to are scared to even entertain the idea of taking it, they're so fragile.

We are who we are and obviously it's not going to change.

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1 hour ago, MrDoaba said:

It doesn't, that's not why I took the test. I did it out of sheer curiosity, it's human nature to want to know your origins, and kade kade shaunk vi pura karna penda ah, no? It's had absolutely no impact on my life and it's not gonna. If the scientific side has no significance to you, then just see it as a bit of fun.

And no where in my post indicates I have an inflated ego brother, did you not read the Jatt joke? If any anything I put my results here in opposition to those who act elitist - infact some people I've mentioned the test to are scared to even entertain the idea of taking it, they're so fragile.

We are who we are and obviously it's not going to change.

ok lol 

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1 hour ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

tell me just one simple thing .

How does it change your life or kaum by knowing where you originated from ? It can only help one's ego to know that they're 15% european or .. you know .... a part of so called "elite"  race 

I don't know man. If my results showed I was somehow any percentage european/white, I'd be pretty blumin disappointed... 

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Just now, S4NGH said:

I don't know man. If my results showed I was somehow any percentage european/white, I'd be pretty blumin disappointed... 

I don't even need a genetic test . I have golden brownish hair (esp near the skin) , brown eyes and fair skin , A positive blood group , 

My mother's side blue / light colored eyes not uncommon . All these traits point to some degree of european ancestry 

Anyways, we all have aryan blood . Aryans were nothing but central asians or europeans . 

Anyways why the eff does it matter lol 

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2 minutes ago, S4NGH said:

I don't know man. If my results showed I was somehow any percentage european/white, I'd be pretty blumin disappointed... 

To be fair if the Celtic part of the results are true, it's not as bad as it coming back British (even though you can't really define British). It's most likely to be Scottish as the Scots and Scandinavians did a fair bit of mingling.

Scottish people are quite admirable. At least in this regard:

"...for, as long as but a hundred of us remain alive, never will we on any conditions be brought under English rule. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom – for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."

 

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