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What is the main belief in regards to the 10 gurus ? I've come across a few different beliefs and I'm a bit confused - this is what I've heard, can someone tell which one is correct - 

1) guru means someone that's takes you from darkness to light ie guide that is divinely inspired - kind of like a prophet of the Abrahamic faiths - they were human mortals that had reached a high as status with waheguru

2) gurus were Waheguru in human form - kind of like Jesus in Christianity - someone also told me the gurus didn't have children conventuallt but all were born like Jesus as God in human form can't have Sex. 

3) Guru Nanak was like God in human form but the others were divinely inspired as guru Nanak was the only one that disappeared and was one with God - other came from Hindu backgrounds ( guru angad, guru amr das, guru ram das)

4) same as above but includes guru gobind as divine also 

 which one is the correct one ?

also I thighs all the gurus were regarded equally ? Are they all not the same ?

thanks 

 

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That's a good question.

A guru is someone who takes you from darkness to light and they are Vaheguru themselves. I will give you a Gurbani Pangti.

Gur Parmesar eko jaan

Know that the Guru and Vaheguru are one.

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1 hour ago, Guest Kaur 2 said:

VJKK VJKF

That's a good question.

A guru is someone who takes you from darkness to light and they are Vaheguru themselves. I will give you a Gurbani Pangti.

Gur Parmesar eko jaan

Know that the Guru and Vaheguru are one.

VJKK VJKF

not all who call themselves Gurus are worthy of such a high title...Only Satguru Nanak Dev ji 's to Guru Gobind Singh ji  are worthy of that status in this age of Darkness (Kalyug)

to the Brother who has so many questions:

1.) The Guru Sahiban are more than Prophets as they had full knowledge and abilities of Akal Purakh , they never displayed doubt, anger, greed, pride, lust( desires) or attachment and accepted God's will without complaint. This is not true of the prophets of old.

2) The Guru Sahiban were born of married women conventionally acquiring a human body. Guru Nanak Dev ji was the second child of Mata Tripta and Mehta Kalu  as he had an older Sister Nanaki . Those who became Guru through sewa and simran at the feet of Gurbani were also Humans but God realised souls, we are all part of Akal Purakh it's only the mindset that makes us see seperation.
we are All one Jot - divine light/soul  just poured into different vessels (this includes the whole of the natural world around us ). 

It is good to be in family life and to be actively acting in the world being a positive contributor, taking one's responsibilities seriously and not abandoning them to have a spiritual life . The Guru Sahiban  led by example and had a wife and family. 

sex is not a dirty thing , it is just the creative process in action ...when we as humans corrupt its use to satisfy powertrips(abuse) anger(sexual violence), greed (promiscuity) we take its postive nature to very dark and destructive places. Guru Teg Bahadur ji gave Guru Gobind Singh ji (and all his children to be Khalsa ) advice  about staying true to one's spouse and showing love  and care there only. Our Guru Sahiban were plain speakers and were clear about the need to express that aspect of life within the sanctity of marriage so we will not be making unfounded myths about them . Guru Nanak Dev ji being app Parmeshwar had two sons - so no Jesus could have had children too there are no rule such as you said.

3. Guru Angad Dev ji was a gursikh  because he gave himself to Guru Nanak Dev ji , same Guru Amar Das ji was gursikh of Guru Angad Dev ji and Guru Ram Das ji was gursikh of Guru Amar Das ji . This means all of them abandoned labels long before they became Guru Sahiban . None of them had accepted any one else as their Guru prior to entering Guru Nanak Dev ji's path so not Hindu as that is a requirement too to have a Guru on the Hindu paths

4. One jot  bro one immortal jot 

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5 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

not all who call themselves Gurus are worthy of such a high title...Only Satguru Nanak Dev ji 's to Guru Gobind Singh ji  are worthy of that status in this age of Darkness (Kalyug)

VJKK VJKF

I was talking about the Guru's but its my fault, I should have been more specific. Sorry.

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19 minutes ago, Guest Kaur 2 said:

VJKK VJKF

I was talking about the Guru's but its my fault, I should have been more specific. Sorry.

VJKK VJKF

I know but making sure people know there's a difference, aj kal  Guru te Babey bathere milde- itt chakko ...

 

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2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

I know but making sure people know there's a difference, aj kal  Guru te Babey bathere milde- itt chakko ...

 

OK, I will be more careful of this next time. Sorry, should have proof-read it before posting. My fault.

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The reason the Gurus taught Gurbani is so that we can become like them, realizing our True Nature. 

We are All God and He is Us. We are the drop in the ocean and the ocean is a drop in us. 

The Gurus realized and practiced and applied the Truth to their daily lives, hence they became the realized Truth in Form.

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