Did the Gurus have past lives?

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Sangat Ji, I'm hearing that apparently the gurus had past lives. I find this hard to believe because I thought they were Akaal Purakh themselves so can someone please enlighten me?

Vaheguru Ji

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3 hours ago, Singh2017 said:

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Sangat Ji, I'm hearing that apparently the gurus had past lives. I find this hard to believe because I thought they were Akaal Purakh themselves so can someone please enlighten me?

Vaheguru Ji

You are absolutely corect.

Guru Sahiban can never ever have any past life nor karam, for they they come from  the  plane of complete Truth, namely Sach Khand, for the only purpose to enlighten and upliftment of mankind, in the mysteries of Wahiguru Akal Purukh, for us polluted jeevas, as we can not have any sort of access, not morally,  neither physically, nor intelectually.

We are tightly bound by maya and karam, thus in deep agyanta, unless He, through His kirpa dissolves these our tight chains, there is no hope for us,.

Bin Navai nahee kou thao.

Sat Sree Akal.

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13 hours ago, harsharan000 said:

You are absolutely corect.

Guru Sahiban can never ever have any past life nor karam, for they they come from  the  plane of complete Truth, namely Sach Khand, for the only purpose to enlighten and upliftment of mankind, in the mysteries of Wahiguru Akal Purukh, for us polluted jeevas, as we can not have any sort of access, not morally,  neither physically, nor intelectually.

We are tightly bound by maya and karam, thus in deep agyanta, unless He, through His kirpa dissolves these our tight chains, there is no hope for us,.

Bin Navai nahee kou thao.

Sat Sree Akal.

Penji could you shed some light on Dusht Daman being the previous life of Dasam Pita please? Of course Guru Maharaaj didn't have past lives or karam like us mere mortals.

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I think we have to understand what guru is. This is how it works in my opinion. Feel free to correct me:

God was alone first then he created naam then satguru. After that he created the world. So its kind of like the christian trinity. God is 1 but has 3 forms: naam, satguru, and God himself. Very similar to trinity: father, son, and holy spirit. It is satgurus job to go to all the lands and universes to enlighten the people. So satguru was pargat in our world as guru nanak dev ji. But the other gurus like bhai lehna seems to be normal humans with karma and past lives. Forgive me if im wrong. Like bhai lehna worshipped a devi, bhai jetha was an orphan...these all seem karmic. But satguru has paraas kala, no greater then paaras kala. A paaras turns stones to gold, but doesnt turn stones to paaras, itself. The guru can turn ppl not only into gurmukhs, sants, devte, but also the guru. Then the primordial jot of satguru resided in each of the gurus as it now resides in SGGS JI. some of these thoughts i got from gurmatbibek.com. others are mine.

Please satguruji forgive me if i have spoken wronglyor against ur shaaan. For how can a mere human know ur mysterious grand ways

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3 hours ago, S4NGH said:

Penji could you shed some light on Dusht Daman being the previous life of Dasam Pita please? Of course Guru Maharaaj didn't have past lives or karam like us mere mortals.

Dusht Daman was a Monarch who reigned near current day Hazoor Sahib during Satyug, deciding to meditate on God he goes to Hemkunt Sahib and starts tapisya there to become one with God, he succeeds obviously. During his time there in a different region of the world Durga is battling demons again, the demons overwhelm her and she flees the battle field, from the katha I heard she became so weak she actually lost her corporeal form.

Finding a Rishi doing tapisya she begs him to protect her. That Rishi is Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji Maharaj. The Rishi protects her and the demon hoards come to him, demanding he hand over Devi. Rishi Ji is unafraid and prays to Waheguru who sends Dusht Daman to help, Dusht Daman (also being a warrior) razes the demon army along with an army of lions (created by Rishi JI from his lion matt), iirc Durga also takes part in the battle after Rishi Ji restores all her powers. 

It was during the time of Dusht Daman that Sarbloh Granth was written. 

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