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2 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Please provide me with some evidence of this increase 

 

Syuk don't speak out against all terrorism or all discrimination.. They had nothing to say when 'Right wing', edl, Britain first nazi follower killed Jo Cox.. I don't see them and have not seen them speaking out against attacks on minorities in the wake of brexit.. The fact is they choose to homogenise a very diverse community of people and demonise a entire religious group which is ridiculous.. 

 

How ironic that you see a group like syuk as opposing intolerance.. The mind boggles at the intellectual  gymnastics your able to make.. 

I have no problem in opposing any bigotry.. And will always stand against intolerance however that doesn't mean I will demonise a diverse group of people who come under a lazy umbrella term.. There are many different voices of Islam, sunni, Shia, ahmadi, sufi... Just in the same way sikh panth is plural and made up of people who have commonalities but also are very different.. 

You seem confused and conflate, Marxism, communism, and socialism.. 

Marxism is a theory about the nature of the  economic organisation of society and the implications of that.. I'm not a marxist or a communist... However I think sikh philosophy is largely congruent with much of the social aspects of it 

You have given your whole game away.

You've provided exactly what I said you were.

I have given ample examples, yet you come back with more questions.

Which means my assessment was correct.

You'll come back I'm sure with asking of an example of the example I have provided.

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8 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

You have given your whole game away.

You've provided exactly what I said you were.

I have given ample examples, yet you come back with more questions.

Which means my assessment was correct.

You'll come back I'm sure with asking of an example of the example I have provided.

What game? Lol 

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9 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

You have given your whole game away.

You've provided exactly what I said you were.

I have given ample examples, yet you come back with more questions.

Which means my assessment was correct.

You'll come back I'm sure with asking of an example of the example I have provided.

You haven't actually given me your definition of what a cultural marxist is and how you have discerned that I am one.. 

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6 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Oh dear.. 

Just to clarify are you suggesting sikhi does not promote egalitarianism? Seriously.. 

Iv asked you to show me it from 18/19th century sources.

I'm sure you can mange that, I've not made any assertations here about what Sikhi promotes, you have so back it up. You whine  about wanting evidence from others so follow your own wants, I wait with eager breath of your your sources, your own hand drawn translations abd so on.

 

How would you know what it promotes. You can't even read the source material so who told you it did? 😂 

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20 hours ago, Kira said:

Iv asked you to show me it from 18/19th century sources.

I'm sure you can mange that, I've not made any assertations here about what Sikhi promotes, you have so back it up. You whine  about wanting evidence from others so follow your own wants, I wait with eager breath of your your sources, your own hand drawn translations abd so on.

 

How would you know what it promotes. You can't even read the source material so who told you it did? 😂 

Ek onkaar

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Sikh Press Association, Sikh Council UK and Sikh Youth UK have issued a press release and response to the independents article.

Note how it highlights the grass roots work SYUK carry out in the community directly with families , councils and the police. Note to mention the awards they have won. What community work do the Sunny Hundal, Katy Sian, Rana crew actually do ? What is their contribution to the mission of and ethos of Sikhi ???

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Cisco_Singh said:

Sikh Press Association, Sikh Council UK and Sikh Youth UK have issued a press release and response to the independents article.

Note how it highlights the grass roots work SYUK carry out in the community directly with families , councils and the police. Note to mention the awards they have won. What community work do the Sunny Hundal, Katy Sian, Rana crew actually do ? What is their contribution to the mission of and ethos of Sikhi ???

 

 

Hundal, Sian do lots of community work.

Just guess which community they work for.

 

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7 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Ek onkaar

So you have no references to any historical documentations, thank you for showing everyone you simply talk out of your rear end.

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3 hours ago, Cisco_Singh said:

Sikh Press Association, Sikh Council UK and Sikh Youth UK have issued a press release and response to the independents article.

Note how it highlights the grass roots work SYUK carry out in the community directly with families , councils and the police. Note to mention the awards they have won. What community work do the Sunny Hundal, Katy Sian, Rana crew actually do ? What is their contribution to the mission of and ethos of Sikhi ???

 

 

They are big contributors to the "find new things to get offended at" brigade. 

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56 minutes ago, Kira said:

So you have no references to any historical documentations, thank you for showing everyone you simply talk out of your rear end.

I thought you read sggsj? 

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53 minutes ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

I thought you read sggsj? 

Yes I do, but that's not an argument. So please find historical documentation and proof, unless now you'll argue that sikhs in the past were fools who didn't understand Sikhi at all. I'm waiting for that curcial evidence you love to ask for but never give, I can use your daft argument for anything.

"Hey I robbed a bank, its ok cuz Ek Onkar" "hey some woman got raped, its ok Ek Onkar. "

 

So i'm repeating once again, find HISTORICAL documentation from Purtan sources that prove your stance. If you're incapable of that then I rest my case, you're nothing more than a dog barking .

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guess it's open seaon on sikhs now , rehashing old BS to start another round of justification for labelling and interfering, BTW sukhvirk learn to stand up for your kaum first because they are the only ones who will have your back - no other people

http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/reaching-out-to-britains-sikh-community/article19896728.ece

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