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Strange how the lefty's claim there is no evidence of target grooming against the Sikh community without actually attempting to engage with those who have the evidence. Bhai Mohan Singh of the SAS surely has mountains of evidence and documentation of the status of the grooming cases SAS has dealt with and the demographics and make up of the perpetrators...

Im pretty sure it was Katy Sian who at one stage reportedly had a picture of a Palestinian plane hijacker as her Twitter background and was always posting random stuff about the Palestinian issue or other Muslim conflicts, strangely silent about Sikh issues like 1984 , Delhi ethnic cleansing, operation black thunder, operation woodrose, operation shudi Karan, Professor Davinder Pal Bhullar, Balwant Singh Rajoana etc etc... A typical "City Sikhs" network person..

As a community it is our own fault for not having enough educated, articulate Sikhs in positions where they can make their voices heard as a point of reference so the media don't have to go to the type of people mentioned who don't represent the true narrative of the Sikh viewpoint.

 

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52 minutes ago, proactive said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sikh-youth-uk-muslim-film-university-tommy-robinson-edl-sex-groomers-islamophobia-racism-a8002526.html

Read the above earlier today. It is a total hit piece against the great work done by Panthic organisation Sikh Youth UK. It has quotes from that odious leftie Balwinder Rana of the one man 'Sikhs against the EDL' and the dhimmi Katy Sian who incidentally won the 'heroes' against the Islamophobia awards from the Islamic Human Rights council, an organisation which is an oxymoron in itself. It looks like the liberal sell out fake sikhs can't handle the fact that Sikh organisations like SYUK are making such a huge impact in the community so they have started their character assassinations of this  organisation. The Rana <banned word filter activated> has even tried to assassinate the character of Bhai Mohan Singh of SAS because he spoke at the Football Lad's march last month. The left wing sell out one man band organisations like 'Sikhs against the EDL' and 'Turban Campaign' are seen for the jokes that they are in the community and so they want to try and throw some mud on SYUK and see if any will stick. 

The Independent like the Guardian /Channel4 and the BBC sits on the left of the political spectrum.

They are Cultural Marxists that are in bed with the Islamists. 

Therefore anyone that speaks our against their narrative is seen as a racist/islamaphobe.

Even though this article needs to be rebutted, the circulation of the Independent has gone down considerably and it is a dying paper. 

They should not be taken seriously.

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27 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The Independent like the Guardian /Channel4 and the BBC sits on the left of the political spectrum.

They are Cultural Marxists that are in bed with the Islamists. 

Therefore anyone that speaks our against their narrative is seen as a racist/islamaphobe.

Even though this article needs to be rebutted, the circulation of the Independent has gone down considerably and it is a dying paper. 

They should not be taken seriously.

especially when they post trash such as this after the whole hollywood paedo/sexual abuse has blown up:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/harvey-weinstein-islam-sexual-assault-rape-womens-rights-a8001521.html

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13 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

especially when they post trash such as this after the whole hollywood paedo/sexual abuse has blown up:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/harvey-weinstein-islam-sexual-assault-rape-womens-rights-a8001521.html

Might be to do with muslim shareholder of the Independent:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/online/the-independent-saudi-arabia-investor-shares-sultan-mohamed-abuljadayel-evgeny-lebedev-control-a7866836.html

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'Sikhs against the EDL' are too concerned for muslim and hindu matters for my liking, however, Balwinder Rana is right in saying that tommy robinson is just using our history to incite hatred between Sikhs and muslims in revenge for grooming white girls. That is obvious and it shouldn't even need to be repeated on these boards. Where was his concern for girls in our community when he was a member of the BNP and leader of the EDL?

The goreh used 'divide and conquer' during colonial rule in Bharat/Hindustan (India) to remain in power. Despite Sikh efforts in WWI & II, they still discriminate and attack us (1984, hate crimes etc.) so never ever trust them. Imagine if the many goreh and Sikhs got their wish and the muslims were removed from the uk. The goreh would feel like their land has been reclaimed and the Sikhs may get some praise in return but that would soon be forgotten, just like history has already shown, and our community will remain anonymous with some still always eager to please, like a dog to its master. Don't forget we're not the only non-english community here. What about the muslims removed from the UK? With money and education, they could re-settle anywhere, maybe in areas with Sikh populations, in revenge for Sikhs in the uk colluding with the goreh. If those communities were untroubled before but starting experiencing the problems we currently have with grooming then what would be there to celebrate?

I support the work of SYUK in making the community aware of grooming and I hope it continues but forming an alliance with  a former member of the BNP and EDL seems like desperation for greater recognition.

Mohan Singh does good work for the community but I lost respect for him when he stood in a bana and recited the Sikh national anthem to the goreh, who all looked like football hooligans, before inciting hatred between them and muslims. He is representing Sikhs but that was, in my eyes, an embarrassment and not clever. This is how hate crimes can occur. All this takes is a fool to watch it online and decide to attack a brown man with a turban and beard, even though almost all muslims in the west do not wear a turban.

Is 'Katy Sian' a muslim? She is no Sikh. If she claims otherwise, she is one of many sell-outs.

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5 hours ago, GuestSingh said:

'Sikhs against the EDL' are too concerned for muslim and hindu matters for my liking, however, Balwinder Rana is right in saying that tommy robinson is just using our history to incite hatred between Sikhs and muslims in revenge for grooming white girls. That is obvious and it shouldn't even need to be repeated on these boards. Where was his concern for girls in our community when he was a member of the BNP and leader of the EDL?

The goreh used 'divide and conquer' during colonial rule in Bharat/Hindustan (India) to remain in power. Despite Sikh efforts in WWI & II, they still discriminate and attack us (1984, hate crimes etc.) so never ever trust them. Imagine if the many goreh and Sikhs got their wish and the muslims were removed from the uk. The goreh would feel like their land has been reclaimed and the Sikhs may get some praise in return but that would soon be forgotten, just like history has already shown, and our community will remain anonymous with some still always eager to please, like a dog to its master. Don't forget we're not the only non-english community here. What about the muslims removed from the UK? With money and education, they could re-settle anywhere, maybe in areas with Sikh populations, in revenge for Sikhs in the uk colluding with the goreh. If those communities were untroubled before but starting experiencing the problems we currently have with grooming then what would be there to celebrate?

I support the work of SYUK in making the community aware of grooming and I hope it continues but forming an alliance with  a former member of the BNP and EDL seems like desperation for greater recognition.

Mohan Singh does good work for the community but I lost respect for him when he stood in a bana and recited the Sikh national anthem to the goreh, who all looked like football hooligans, before inciting hatred between them and muslims. He is representing Sikhs but that was, in my eyes, an embarrassment and not clever. This is how hate crimes can occur. All this takes is a fool to watch it online and decide to attack a brown man with a turban and beard, even though almost all muslims in the west do not wear a turban.

Is 'Katy Sian' a muslim? She is no Sikh. If she claims otherwise, she is one of many sell-outs.

How does one incite hatred when the animosity was already there well before Tommy came in the scene.

The EDL is not what it once was.

In regards to Tommy,  if you keep tabs on what he is doing has moved on from the EDL. He's writing books, has has death threats against him as actually confronts the groomers, like Bhai Mohan Singh he has a mission.

The thing about Tommy is that he is not wrong.

Common goals makes strange bedfellows. 

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2 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

How does one incite hatred when the animosity was already there well before Tommy came in the scene.

The EDL is not what it once was.

In regards to Tommy,  if you keep tabs on what he is doing has moved on from the EDL. He's writing books, has has death threats against him as actually confronts the groomers, like Bhai Mohan Singh he has a mission.

The thing about Tommy is that he is not wrong.

Common goals makes strange bedfellows. 

Do you believe Tommy is genuinely fighting a cause he believes he, and is not under control of the government/secret services?

If he is, I admire him. 

We need to be careful as a community, because after Muslims, the press might find ways to alienate us and build opposition towards us as a community

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14 hours ago, proactive said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sikh-youth-uk-muslim-film-university-tommy-robinson-edl-sex-groomers-islamophobia-racism-a8002526.html

Read the above earlier today. It is a total hit piece against the great work done by Panthic organisation Sikh Youth UK. It has quotes from that odious leftie Balwinder Rana of the one man 'Sikhs against the EDL' and the dhimmi Katy Sian who incidentally won the 'heroes' against the Islamophobia awards from the Islamic Human Rights council, an organisation which is an oxymoron in itself. It looks like the liberal sell out fake sikhs can't handle the fact that Sikh organisations like SYUK are making such a huge impact in the community so they have started their character assassinations of this  organisation. The Rana <banned word filter activated> has even tried to assassinate the character of Bhai Mohan Singh of SAS because he spoke at the Football Lad's march last month. The left wing sell out one man band organisations like 'Sikhs against the EDL' and 'Turban Campaign' are seen for the jokes that they are in the community and so they want to try and throw some mud on SYUK and see if any will stick. 

https://www.york.ac.uk/sociology/our-staff/academic/katysian/

If anyone feels they need to contact her

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52 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Do you believe Tommy is genuinely fighting a cause he believes he, and is not under control of the government/secret services?

If he is, I admire him. 

We need to be careful as a community, because after Muslims, the press might find ways to alienate us and build opposition towards us as a community

I watched enough his videos to try to understand this person.

People don't like him because he is a working class white guy who sounds like a chav. People automatically think he is a racist.

He is not under any government services nor is he an agent as far as I can tell. In fact he gets harassed by various organisations whether it is by police or other security services.

With the current climate and Tommy's relentless campaigning,  eventually the mainstream media will start to see him in a different light when they realise which way the wind is blowing.

I reckon the vast majority of Sikhs actually tacitly support and sympathise Tommy but overtly will not show him any support or sympathy.  He represents a particular element of the gorah community that lives in a highly multicultural area and amongst high population of muslims (he is from Luton) that he has developed an instinctive understanding of muslim like many Sikhs do.

Which is probably a reason why he resonates with many Sikhs.

The mainstream media in their arrogance are very slow to pick up on the trends. It takes them 5-10 years to get to the stage where everyone else is.

Parts of the mainstream media already vilifies Sikhs and vast majority of us will do bugger all and carry on as before.

There is always this fear with some Sikhs that somehow after the muslims,  the gorreh will come after us. I don't see how that will necessarily be the case.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

https://www.york.ac.uk/sociology/our-staff/academic/katysian/

If anyone feels they need to contact her

Don't waste your time, she is just the sort of lefty snowflake who will claim she has been threatened if anyone emails her and challenges her on her idiotic views. 

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40 minutes ago, proactive said:

 

As Sikhs we should admire him as he is out there putting his life in danger and his faced with hostility not just from extremist Muslims but the whole Muslim community as well as the left wing media and the political establishment. The same people who are against Tommy are the same people who are against Sikhs and would not lose an opportunity to show us in a bad light while walking on eggshells when dealing with Muslims. Look at the one man band called Sikhs against the EDL. They have never even dealt the child grooming issue and try and post a contrary view to theirs and they will ban you from their facebook profile. They are the real fascists. 

The reason why people like Tommy exist is not because there is a inherent racism among the white British but because of the fact that some Muslims have engaged in not just terrorism but also child grooming across the UK. Had there been no Muslims engaging in terrorism in the UK and there were no child grooming going on then people like Tommy would not exist. 

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5 hours ago, proactive said:

Don't waste your time, she is just the sort of lefty snowflake who will claim she has been threatened if anyone emails her and challenges her on her idiotic views. 

She'll probably get "triggered" and need a "safe space"

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10 hours ago, proactive said:

Don't waste your time, she is just the sort of lefty snowflake who will claim she has been threatened if anyone emails her and challenges her on her idiotic views. 

Agreed, if your going to challenge viewpoints do it in a constructive, inclusive and coherent fashion not in a aggressive or confrontational manner or anything that can be construed as such.

Rest assured these kind of people will very quickly try to publicise and twist any sort of challenges to their viewpoints and label people as "extremist, fundamentalist, khalistani, intolerant" .  We do not need to provide any unnecessary ammunition to the press who are only too happy to demonise and misrepresent the Sikh community already.

A fully evidenced well researched cohesive response is required if any challenge is to be made.

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