Gurbani, Rehatnamas, Hukamnamas on Sex Outside Marriage

[Guest TheTurbanator r/sikh]

Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh!

 

We all know that sex outside marriage is considered a "bajjar kurehat", however technically the Sikh Rehat Maryada only applies to Amritdharis. Rehats change all the time, and were not written by the Guru, I trust the SGGSJ becuase it is unchanged and everything we need is in the Guru Granth, with that being said, I have some questions. 

Here are the following questions I have:

 

1. Does the Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji advise against Sex outside marriage? Im not talking about leaving your own wife for another, im talking about having sex with your girlfriend/boyfriend in the context of a long term relationship where you will eventually get married. 

 

2. Does any historical rehatnama or hukamnama advise against Sex outside marriage? 

 

PLEASE PROVIDE DIRECT SOURCES FOR EVERYTHING 

 

PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IM TALKING ABOUT SEX OUTSIDE MARRIAGE WHEN NOT ALREADY IN A RELATIONSHIP 

 

Thank you  

Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh!

 

[singhbj singh]

ਹਰਿ ਪਹਿਲੜੀ ਲਾਵ ਪਰਵਿਰਤੀ ਕਰਮ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇਆ ਬਲਿ ਰਾਮ ਜੀਉ ॥

In the first round of the marriage ceremony, the Lord sets out His Instructions for performing the daily duties of married life.

ਬਾਣੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਵੇਦੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਹੁ ਪਾਪ ਤਜਾਇਆ ਬਲਿ ਰਾਮ ਜੀਉ ॥

Instead of the hymns of the Vedas to Brahma, embrace the righteous conduct of Dharma, and renounce sinful actions.

https://gurbaninow.com/shabad/2896/32944

In simple words any sort of relationship, sexual or otherwise before marriage will be accounted as sins.

Below are some links that might enlighten us

http://www.tapoban.org/webforum/read.php?1,6402

 

[TheeTurbanator]

Vaheguroo Ji Ka Khalsa, Vaheguroo Ji Ki Fateh!

With respect Gurmukh pyareo

I still dont see enough evidence from Gurbani that is explicitly against sex outside marriage assuming that you are not in a marriage with someone else already. The Bani you quoted doesn't talk about not having premarital sex. 

Could you please provide me with some rehatnama sources? The post you linked quotes a rehatnama, but it doesn't show the source of the rehatnama itself. 

[singhbj singh]

Waheguru ji ka khalsa

Waheguru ji ki fateh

Don't know whether you will get all answers & sources online.

It's better to look into archives & learn from older Gursikhs.

http://www.sikhanswers.com/modern-youth-issues/sikh-attitude-towards-friendship-with-the-opposite-gender/

 

http://www.khalsarishtai.com/about/

 

http://www.sikhmatrimonials.com/Sikhnet/discussion.nsf/ca32680024ff68b487256a08007e86d8/dc54ac843646f32e87257138000928d1!OpenDocument