Sikhs and Catalonian struggle for Independence

[Ranjeet01]

Just happened to catch a few minutes on the Sikh Channel and they were discussing the events in Catalonia and there is quite a significant sangat presence around the Barcelona and Catalonia region.

Obviously our Sikh brothers and sisters there have a lot of sympathies with the people of Catalonia because they can relate very much to the struggle. 

Madrid acts in the same manner as Delhi in terms of siphoning off the resources of more productive regions.  Catalonians suffered a lot under the Franco regime. They have their own language and culture.

There was a conference with some guy called Gagan Singh and lo and behold he was sitting with the Catalan leader Carles Puigemont. In the audience, there was more Sikhs than the locals there.

Something always perplexes about our people. I can understand the sympathies because of the similarities and I have been doing some research and understanding with the history but why do our people have to be at the forefront of fighting other people's battles.

What are our people hoping to achieve with this type of support. Are we going to get support from the Catalonians for an independent Sikh state?

Do the Sikhs in Catalonia realise that by gaining Independence, Catalonia won't be able to be part of the E.U. and they won't be able to move to other parts of Europe once they become pakkeh. 

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Don't really care about Spainish and Catalonian issues, but I would say that if they feel independence is the only way for their rights, then let them be independent. What I get is some Sikh groups who want independence for Khalistan, expect these Catalonians to support them: https://sikhsiyasat.net/2017/10/07/sikhs-justice-sfj-seeks-catalonias-support-punjab-2020-referendum/

 

[Premi5]

12 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

What I get is some Sikh groups who want independence for Khalistan, expect these Catalonians to support them: https://sikhsiyasat.net/2017/10/07/sikhs-justice-sfj-seeks-catalonias-support-punjab-2020-referendum/

 

Get ? Or did you mean 'don't get?' The Catalonians could become an ally for Sikhs, so let's make the best of this situation, or if not, get out of there altogether

[Guest Jacfsing2]

1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

Get ? Or did you mean 'don't get?' The Catalonians could become an ally for Sikhs, so let's make the best of this situation, or if not, get out of there altogether

"Get", as in I know the purpose that some Sikhs think that Catalonian independece is somehow going to help us with Khalistan.

[jkvlondon]

The parallels are strong in this one, high taxation low reinvestment in state, abuse of constituents by central govt and general population whilst eating by benefit of same peoples' work. State government constantly interfered with , corrupt politicians, language outlawed , culture denied.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

4 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

The parallels are strong in this one, high taxation low reinvestment in state, abuse of constituents by central govt and general population whilst eating by benefit of same peoples' work. State government constantly interfered with , corrupt politicians, language outlawed , culture denied.

There is absolutely no comparison if you see what Sikhs go through compared to Catalonians. The support Barcelona gets from the Spanish government compared to Amritsar or Chandigarh are extremely different. It's silly to even compare it if you ask me. Most of them are also Catholics so they share somewhat similarities with Spain, whereas we are not Hindus like the Indian government is.

[jkvlondon]

8 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

There is absolutely no comparison if you see what Sikhs go through compared to Catalonians. The support Barcelona gets from the Spanish government compared to Amritsar or Chandigarh are extremely different. It's silly to even compare it if you ask me. Most of them are also Catholics so they share somewhat similarities with Spain, whereas we are not Hindus like the Indian government is.

they only get 8% return of taxation to reinvest , punjab is lower like 1-3% ....they are a nation that was stand alone and was conquered and  annexed , it is their nation that drove out the islamic invaders  ....I could go on but to each their own view