Agree, some of my relatives are visiting India and they’ve said that the generation now don’t care about anything. They don’t want to work or do the housework, guys or girls, and are quite lazy compared to the previous generation. I thought it was only the people I came across when I went, but three different relatives say the same thing, and said they answer back to the elders more than they do abroad. They don’t give two hoots about them and carry on being oblivious. I was quite shocked to hear this. There are good people but like finding gems in soil, not many. There also needs to be sincerity and empathy like Ranjit paji says. It’s a gamble and because of the distance and differences in the way people are, it’s harder to deal with than if she was from the same country.
This was posted here in 2009, very much in line with missionary soch:
Waheguru Je Kha Khalsa, Waheguru Je Ke Fateh:
I just wanted to chime in as I see this thread has had some recent activity in light of the recent controversy surrounding the Sojhi curriculum at Fremont Gurdwara which I understand has now been removed...
I'd like to thank everyone who has weighed in so far. I continue to believe that there is a great deal of potential for an entity like the Sikh Research Institute. As mentioned in my original post, they have done some good work such as helping with the making of the Widow Colony. But the good that they do should not give them a pass when they are wrong. I am convinced, now more than ever, that the worldwide sangat, particularly those here in North America need to stand up and refute some of what Harinder Singh is saying.
Just to recap, here is a sampling of the more controversial aspects of Harinder Singh's "research" courtesy of Panthic Weekly:
Do not believe in Dasam Granth
Promote meat eating
Promote pre-marital dating, do not allow parents in their camps
Promote 3 bani nitnem with only 6 pauri Anand Sahib
Do not believe in reading gurbani for our soul, only for research
Believe Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a book of knowledge and not Pargat Guran Ki Deh
Carry Guru Ji in suitcases to their camps etc
Do not believe in Chaur Sahib, Parsad bhog, Guru Ji's bastar and other daily sewa
Has changed Gurmantar from Waheguru to Vahguru
Has removed reference to Sri Nankana Sahib from Ardas
Has changed Dohre - from Guru Manyo Granth to Guru Panth
Has disrespected Guru Ji by saying Dasam Pita Ji was saved by sikhs in Chamkaur (vs Guru saves us all)
Has written disrespectful things about Pancham Pita's shaheedi and believe if Sukhmani Sahib could not save Guru ji from hot tavi, how can it help a sikh's problems
I'm all for people having an opinion but he should be prepared to back these up. Ideally he would participate in a debate similar to the one that the Singhs in Toronto had with Kala Afghana a few years back. Bhai Bhinderpal Singh would strike me as a good person to participate in such a debate. From everything that I have heard, Harinder has so far refused to participate in a debate each time he has been requested to do so. I think we should try and identify folks within the community who are just as articulate as he is and tackle each one of his blasphemous assertions...just my two cents.