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sitokaur    99

please read Jail Chitthian, where pathans gave prison staff a good beating for ill treating Brahmgyani Bhai Randhir Singh Jio_/\_

good and bad in all kaum and us, thus, we still need laha Jio _/\_

and it is Guru Nanak Dev Jio baksheesh of feeding sadhu, that is what KA inspired with Jio_/\_.  KHALSA FOOD, GURMUKHI, ATEY NITNEM WILL BRING KHALSA RAJ_/\_Ek Om Kar Sat Gurparsad Jio kirpa karin_/\_

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Jonny101    4,078
On 9/23/2017 at 3:31 AM, Mahakaal96 said:

DELETED.... a few weeks ago he did nindiya of mahapursh Baba Binod Singh Ji by wrongly accusing Baba Ji of being a 'mogul collaborator'..... and now he comes on here calling for relationships to be forged with Muslims.... DELETEDo back up his false allegations.

DELETED implied that Mata Sundri Ji, Rattan Singh Bhangu, Sant Jarnail Singh & Giani Gian Singh were all nindaks because they held a different opinion then him.... ūüėĪ

When myself & others like @13Mirch first challenged his views a few months back he DELETED

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Accuses a mahapursh of being a moghul collaborator then says we should forge relationships with Muslims.... 

Lies, lies and all lies. My only crime was to defend Baba Banda Singh Bahadur from your venomous Nindya. And you replied to me by insulting my parents. You did the same thing to another member who came in support of me. Due to this repeated misbehavior you are no longer allowed to post here freely by the admins. I no longer even read your posts here. So don't quote me in future.

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sitokaur    99

Rehitvaan Khalsa Langar (www.akjfaq.com), is vital to keep our ego from hurting each others' feelings Jio_/\_Vahiguroo Jio kirpa_/\_

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Jonny101    4,078
On 9/23/2017 at 8:54 AM, proactive said:

I've always found Jonny101's posts informative and enlightening. I don't know what thread you think he did nindya in but I highly doubt he would say anything against Mata Sundri. or Sant Jarnail Singh unless you inferred this. FYI Rattan Singh Bhangu and Giani Gian Singh were writers and not brahmgianis so their writings can be challenged and as such this does not make one a nindak. 

The reason he seems to be angry at me is because he was doing Nindya of Baba Banda Singh Bahadur who without a doubt was the greatest Sikh leader. I challenged his criticism and instead criticized Binod Singh for his treachery and because of his treachery the Sikh independence of Punjab was pushed back by 40 years. I  even wrote poetry for him. And instead of giving me a similar witty reply he insults my parents like a little school yard child and he did the same thing to another  member until the admins had to take action against him. He knows I did not do any criticism of Mata ji or Sant ji but a serial liar cannot help but  lie against another. The only part where he is telling the truth is that I did indeed criticize Binod Singh who was basically the Santa Singh of the 1700s.

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sitokaur    99

Guru Nanak kirpa so we can disagree as ONE LOVING KHALSA FAMILY, to know we are different due to our minds, but our jot is VAHIGUROO Jio Jot, thus, should not disrespect anyone's family, because Japji Sahib reminds we would not indulge in ego if we know Truth Jio_/\_

bhul chuk muaf so i too can also be as our Vahiguroo Jio Guru Sahibaan Jot SADA NIRLEP, ocean of life full of tumultuous waves_/\_, but Dhan Sikh Kaum Vadey Bhaag that we have Naam atey Gurbani under umbrella of Khalsa Panth Family, BLISS JIO_/\_

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Ranjeet01    1,149

I always wanted to know. If Khalsa Aid were around during WW2, after Germany was obliterated and Nagasaki/Hiroshima was atomic bombed I am sure there would have been many refugees and people needing help.

Would Khalsa Aid still provide aid and supplies for people even though Germans/Japanese may have been involved in many atrocities. 

Do they really consider humanity as one and think of everyone the same or would they have softer spot for certain people's. 

Would they show impartiality between a Jewish concentration camp survivor and a homeless German POW?

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proactive    1,367

I don't think that something like Khalsa Aid as it now could have existed in WW2. The Sikhs of that generation would have been perplexed at Khalsa Aid if they were going around the world helping German or Japanese refugees.  Those Sikhs had stronger character and self belief than the pappus that run Khalsa Aid have today. 

Khalsa Aid and other such 'disaster relief at the drop of a hat' type organisations within the Sikh community are a product of the puppufication of Sikhs ever since 1947. We have accepted outright lies like Mian Meer laid the foundation stone of Harmandir Sahib and that Sikhi is just a religion like all the others and that we don't seek converts and that quality rather than quantity. Some even think that Khalsa just  means pure so hence Raj Karega Khalsa just means the pure ones will rule and that the pure ones can be a person of any religion.  This pappufication is there for all to see. There is a facebook account which is run by Khalistanis and they posted a video of a Hindu girl being slapped by a BJP women councillor because the post stated that she had been 'just having a coffee in a restaurant with a Muslim boy' . The truth was that the Hindu girl was openly having an affair with a Muslim boy which she admitted. Now look at how even Pappufication has taken over those who claim to be Khalistanis! They will lie in order to show Hindus oppressing the Hindu girl because she was innocently with a Muslim boy. The same account has more stories about the so-called oppression the Rohingyas than anything about Sikhs or Khalistan. This is how far the rot has spread. When I commented and stated what the truth was and if the other people commenting how bad the slapping was would be ok with their daughters or sisters opening having an affair with a Muslim boys. The comments I was on the lines of 'What is it to you, it's her life' and these comments were from Sikhs! I could expect such rubbish from Muslims or Goray but Sikhs stating this rubbish just showed how much pappufication has taken deep roots on todays Sikhs. The same Pappu Sikhs will think that it's great that Khalsa Aid is wasting the sangat's money in Burma while Sikhs in need are ignored a few miles from where these pappus live. 

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sitokaur    99

Vahiguroo Proactive Jio, 

You are so frankly correct, but why did Guru Gobind Singh Jio pledge His entire Family for cused, and ungrateful hind kaum...evil gangu caused trouble for Mata Gujri Kaur Jio atey Char Sahibzade Jio...Guru Arjan Dev Jio also put to torture due to evil hind backstabbing, while in both situations evil musalman carried out evil actions.

As for our own sikh puppets, so true also, as my sis is one evil puppet of maya, but on the other hand she has been a great financial asset and help to my puppet to her family, and me.

Khalsa Aid is not the only sikh org, serving musalman, other kaum more than our own jio_/\_.  In this situation, I feel our suffering kaum not doing something right in their personal lives or bad karam to pay, as in my personal situation ji_/\_.

Our Great Guru Jio's game of love is truly Guru bin ...unable to comprehend_/\_, but keeping up with right thought, word, and actions to help others and ourselves we must as Sikhs PROUD TO BE SIKHS_/\_!  Here, I ask Guru Maharaj Jio many times, if You are doer, why? So, why we have to pay for bad karam, and why not make all creation Khalsa as He has instant power to do so?_/\_

Just know also, that as Gurbani reminds, Vahiguroo is doer of EVERY action, thought, and word, so all that happens is good...and I understood this when I helped a fellow Sikh, and non Sikh, then got like a slap in face, because person/s treated me like I was the trouble ji_/\_;). One example, a sindi mona doing chakr seva at Gurduara vs allowing Sikh keertani, to my disappointment, so I ask in ardas to Guru Maharaj to intervene.  Same keertani was serving karah parsad to all sangat (wealthy non practising), and totally ignored gareeb me?_/\_  So sindhi mona heart is Khalsa_/\_

Paviterr Charan hath jorr benti bhul chuk muaf Vahiguroo Jio atey Sabna Nu_/\_

 

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Premi5    66

If these are the type of people they are helping, then yes. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4921426/Hindu-Rohingya-say-Muslim-majority-force-convert.html

Hindu Rohingyas who have fled the violence in Myanmar are reportedly being kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam by Muslims of the same ethnicity in refugee camps in Bangladesh. 

 

Some 480,000 Rohingya, mostly Muslim but also Hindu, have taken shelter in Bangladeshi refugee camps in the past month, leaving aid groups scrambling for provisions to help them.

Several women are reporting that Muslim Rohingya are murdering Hindu men and taking the women as wives, forcing them to convert to Islam - or be killed. 

 

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Kidnapped: Rica Dhar, 28, left, and Puja Mullick, right, say Muslim Rohingya killed their male family members and forced them to remove their Hindu marital bangles and begin praying to Allah, saying 'You will have to turn Muslim and marry us'

'I was told I would be allowed to live only if I changed my religion. I was made to wear burqa and stay with them to learn their traditions for almost three weeks.

'I was made to read Muslim prayer and I had to pray to Allah. My family started searching for me and came to know that I was living in a Muslim camp.'

Speaking to Mail Today at the Hindu Rohingya camp in Kotupalong area of Cox's Bazar district of Bangladesh, she says her red sari is the only item of clothing she owns, and that her three-year-old son has no clothes at all. 

Rica Dhar, 28, narrates a similar tragic tale as she feeds her young son.

'On Friday (August 25) they entered all the Hindu residences and attacked. First the mobile phones were taken away and then men were tied and beaten brutally. My husband worked as a goldsmith.


 

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proactive    1,367
9 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Wow and this is a Sikh forum! Bile and hate spoken here has nothing to do with sikhi plain and simple 

When people are unable to defend their position then they resort to nonsensical comments like yours. 

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Sukhvirk1976    197
7 minutes ago, proactive said:

When people are unable to defend their position then they resort to nonsensical comments like yours. 

LOL! I had no position to defend.. If you find my comments nonsensical I would have thought one would look for clarification before writing something off.. 

Also when I read gibberish or nonsense I generally don't comment upon it 

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proactive    1,367

Beta you put a comment here stating-;

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Wow and this is a Sikh forum! Bile and hate spoken here has nothing to do with sikhi plain and simple 

So you have a POSITION which is that there is bile and hate put spoken(?) here that has nothing to do with Sikhi. 

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Sukhvirk1976    197
14 minutes ago, proactive said:

Beta you put a comment here stating-;

So you have a POSITION which is that there is bile and hate put spoken(?) here that has nothing to do with Sikhi. 

Yes 

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proactive    1,367

Here's so more news of what happened prior to the Mynamar army actions against the Rohingyas. I was watching that odious Arnaab Goswami on RTV and he had a debate about this issue. One the Muslims who was defending the Rohingyas said that how can we be sure these are Hindu bodies, Hindus don't bury their dead!! 

 

Myanmar's killing fields: 45 Hindu bodies are found in mass graves as authorities accuse Rohingya Muslims of carrying out massacre

  • Bodies of 45 Hindus including children found in mass graves in Myanmar
  • Army say they were slaughtered by Rohingya Muslims and 48 are still missing¬†
  • Military has driven 480,000 Rohingya across the border to Bangladesh
  • The UN has accused the army of ethnic clensing, which armed forces deny¬†

By Afp and Chris Pleasance for MailOnline

PUBLISHED: 18:32, 27 September 2017 | UPDATED: 19:16, 27 September 2017

 

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Myanmar troops have uncovered the bodies of 45 Hindu villagers as the army accused Rohingya Muslims of carrying out a massacre.

Soldiers say they are still searching for another 48 missing Hindus who are feared dead after the discovery of mass graves in Rakhine state containing skeletal remains, including of women and children.

Army chiefs say the villagers were killed by Rohingya militants who also attacked police outposts. They say this justifies a brutal crackdown which has seen 480,000 people from the minority sect flee across the border to Bangladesh in a month.

Myanmar's army has accused Rohingya Muslims of massacring Hindu villagers in Rakhine state after the bodies of 45 people, including women and children, were found in mass graves
 
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Myanmar's army has accused Rohingya Muslims of massacring Hindu villagers in Rakhine state after the bodies of 45 people, including women and children, were found in mass graves

Witnesses said masked men stormed their village armed with machetes before hacking people to death. The army has used attacks such as this to justify their crackdown on the Rohingya
 
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Witnesses said masked men stormed their village armed with machetes before hacking people to death. The army has used attacks such as this to justify their crackdown on the Rohingya

Myanmar authorities have accused Rohingya of violence against Buddhists and Hindus in Rakhine state, as well as attacking police 
 
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Myanmar authorities have accused Rohingya of violence against Buddhists and Hindus in Rakhine state, as well as attacking police 

The UN has accused troops of systematically evicting the Rohingya, who have faced decades of persecution in the mainly Buddhist country.

Rights groups accuse troops of using arson to force the Rohingya out and block their return, a charge the army denies, accusing the Muslim minority of burning down their own homes.

The army has restricted press access to the conflict zone, including by independent observers who have asked to verify the presence of mass graves, and the identities of those inside. 

The military has posted regular updates that blame Rohingya militants for the bloodshed, leading to allegations of a cover-up

On Wednesday a Myanmar minister, Win Myat Aye, was quoted in state media as saying the government would manage all fire-damaged land in Rakhine, a development likely to raise concern about the Rohingya refugees' ability to return.

 In the space of just a month 480,000 Rohingya have been driven across the border to Bangladesh as whole villages have been burned to the ground
 
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 In the space of just a month 480,000 Rohingya have been driven across the border to Bangladesh as whole villages have been burned to the ground

 Relatives of the dead have blamed the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army, a militant arm of associated with the Muslim sect, of carrying out the killings
 
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 Relatives of the dead have blamed the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army, a group of militants associated with the Muslim sect, of carrying out the killings

Picutred is a burned out village near Maungdaw township, which was once Muslim-majority but has now been almost entirely cleared of the religious group
 
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Picutred is a burned out village near Maungdaw township, which was once Muslim-majority but has now been almost entirely cleared of the religious group

Hindu leaders say the graves were only located because eight women were spared after agreeing to convert to Islam and being brought to Bangladesh
 
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Hindu leaders say the graves were only located because eight women were spared after agreeing to convert to Islam and being brought to Bangladesh

The army and government have also sought to highlight the suffering of other ethnic groups swept up in the unrest, such as Rakhine Buddhists and Hindus.

On Wednesday the army flew journalists to the place where the mass graves of 45 Hindu villagers.

The decomposing skeletal bodies remained laid out in rows on a grassy field outside the village of Ye Baw Kyaw as distraught relatives wailed.

Locals have helped identify 25 of the corpses, according to the government's Information Committee. 

Hindus who fled the area have told AFP that masked men stormed into their community that day and hacked victims to death with machetes before dumping them into freshly-dug pits.

Speaking to media on the army-led press trip, Maung Ba, a 32-year-old Hindu, said several of his relatives were among those brutally murdered.

'I identified them based on their clothes and body shape,' he said solemnly.

Ni Maul, a Hindu leader who has helped with the search, said authorities found the graves using testimony from eight Hindu women who were spared and brought to Bangladesh after they agreed to convert to Islam.

'They kept the beautiful eight women alive to marry,' he said.

A woman weeps as she helps to identify the bodies of relatives and neighbours among the dead. Local authorities say 25 people have been identified so far
 
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A woman weeps as she helps to identify the bodies of relatives and neighbours among the dead. Local authorities say 25 people have been identified so far

Hindus in Rakhine state accuse the Rohingya of oppression, and say they have been targeted in refugee camps by preachers trying to force them to convert to Islam
 
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Hindus in Rakhine state accuse the Rohingya of oppression, and say they have been targeted in refugee camps by preachers trying to force them to convert to Islam

Hindu women weep over the decomposing bodies of relatives who they believe were killed by members of a militant Rohingya organisation
 
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Hindu women weep over the decomposing bodies of relatives who they believe were killed by members of a militant Rohingya organisation

While journalists have been allowed to visit the sites of mass graves, under escort by the army, independent observers have not, leading some to allege a cover-up
 
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While journalists have been allowed to visit the sites of mass graves, under escort by the army, independent observers have not, leading some to allege a cover-up

Four Hindu women displaced in Bangladesh told AFP they were among the eight who escaped the massacre in the same area of Kha Maung Seik, with eight children in tow.

'We begged for our lives, asking they spare the women,' 22-year-old Bina Sheel told AFP at a small village for Hindu refugees in the Bangladeshi border district of Cox's Bazar.

'They asked if we would marry them. We said yes, to save our lives.'

All four women said they were taken to Rohingya Muslim camps inside Bangladesh by the attackers. Sheel said her captor urged her to convert to Islam before she was brought to the Hindu village by a local leader.

The accounts could not be independently confirmed. The crisis has intensified religious hatreds and fuelled ethnically-charged claims and counterclaims.

The focal point of the unrest, Rakhine's Maungdaw district, was once home to several religious communities, with the Rohingya a majority.

But vast swathes of the border region are now completely emptied of Muslim residents.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4926446/Rohingya-accused-mass-killings-Hindus-Myanmar.html#ixzz4twtWCKU0 
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