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On 9/15/2017 at 11:17 AM, Singh123456777 said:

Taksal and nihangs are not jathebandi, they are puratan sampradas from the times of the guru.

Why modern Sikhs are making the term Jathebandi as negative? Even Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale use to refer to Taksal as "Jatha". 

 

Jatha or Jathebandi are part of the Sikh vocabulary.

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54 minutes ago, Jonny101 said:

Why modern Sikhs are making the term Jathebandi as negative? Even Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale use to refer to Taksal as "Jatha". 

 

Jatha or Jathebandi are part of the Sikh vocabulary.

Samprda is the puratan word and in my opinion we should not lose our puratan vocabulary, just like we almost lost raag kirtan.

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4 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

Brother, even though u probably did not meant to but it creates deeper divisions by saying "oh, these are modern jathabandis" but these are ancient sampardha-vaan.

Are you referring to me?

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5 hours ago, Singh123456777 said:

Samprda is the puratan word and in my opinion we should not lose our puratan vocabulary, just like we almost lost raag kirtan.

The term Jatha is more puratan among Sikhs than the term sampradha. The term Sampradha you will not find in any puratan Sikh text. On the other hand since puratan times traditionally a Sikh leader has always been called a Jathedar(i.e. head of a Jatha). That's why even Taksal mahapurkhs would refer to Taksal as Jatha. The usage of the term Sampradha seems to have begun amongst the Sikhs since after the British conquest of Punjab. Before that it was always Dal, Panth, Jatha which was used to denote a Sikh group.

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On 9/15/2017 at 11:08 AM, monatosingh said:

Akhand Kirtani Jatha has been added, quite short because it's not hard to find actual facts about that Jatha, and also please use those links I mentioned in the post they will help you a lot!

Akhand Keertani Jatha is divided into three prominent groups and some smaller groups. The Maryada and beliefs differ (Except for core AKJ principles like Keski, Larrivaar, Raagmala, Mool Mantar.)

GurmatBibek group is not even mainstream AKJ, it's a splinter group that's at odds with the mainstream. They have noticably different Rehat.

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On 17/09/2017 at 10:00 PM, Jonny101 said:

The term Jatha is more puratan among Sikhs than the term sampradha. The term Sampradha you will not find in any puratan Sikh text. On the other hand since puratan times traditionally a Sikh leader has always been called a Jathedar(i.e. head of a Jatha). That's why even Taksal mahapurkhs would refer to Taksal as Jatha. The usage of the term Sampradha seems to have begun amongst the Sikhs since after the British conquest of Punjab. Before that it was always Dal, Panth, Jatha which was used to denote a Sikh group.

The term Taksal was not used to refer to Jatha Bhindrawala before Operation Blue Star.

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On 9/17/2017 at 10:00 PM, Jonny101 said:

The term Jatha is more puratan among Sikhs than the term sampradha. The term Sampradha you will not find in any puratan Sikh text. On the other hand since puratan times traditionally a Sikh leader has always been called a Jathedar(i.e. head of a Jatha). That's why even Taksal mahapurkhs would refer to Taksal as Jatha. The usage of the term Sampradha seems to have begun amongst the Sikhs since after the British conquest of Punjab. Before that it was always Dal, Panth, Jatha which was used to denote a Sikh group.

That sort of makes sense and doesn't.

For example, for a puratan samprada they wouldn't call it Jatha but they call the head of whatever it is the 'Jathedar'.

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Jathebandi

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