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Today I was not allowed to enter the United States Embassy in London because I was wearing Kirpan


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15 hours ago, SoulSingh said:

I'm from the US, we don't have as much freedom compared to you in the U.K.

Erm, wutt? Freedom in the UK, what're you talking about bro?

The US has freedom of speech enshrined in its Constitution.

In the UK, if you were to be doing katha of certain parts of Guru Granth Sahib or Dasam Granth Sahib, you could hauled up on charges of Islamophic incitement of hatred:

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Expressions of hatred toward someone on account of that person's colour, race, disability, nationality (including citizenship), ethnic or national origin, religion, or sexual orientation is forbidden.[1][2][3] Any communication which is threatening or abusive, and is intended to harass, alarm, or distress someone is forbidden.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom

Now, I don't advocate stirring up hatred, but you are free to do so in the US. Not so in the UK. You can call it good or bad, but please don't say "we don't have freedom in the US compared to the UK".

UK, the country that has banned hunting, is free? Compared to the US, where hunting is a popular pastime?

UK, the country where (effectively) you cannot bear arms, is free? Compared to the country (US) where the right to bear arms is enshrined right there in the Constitution?

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1 minute ago, Jacfsing2 said:

SubUrban America: Worst place for gun-rights, especially if you live near a major city.

Respectfully, no it is not, bro. Generally, in such areas it is illegal to discharge a weapon. 

But that means, shooting for the sake of it, like target practice or whatever. It is not illegal to defend yourself in your home against an invader.

As for cities, it is difficult to keep guns legally in Chicago, NYC, and Washington, DC. Other than that, it's generally OK.

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5 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Erm, wutt? Freedom in the UK, what're you talking about bro?

The US has freedom of speech enshrined in its Constitution.

In the UK, if you were to be doing katha of certain parts of Guru Granth Sahib or Dasam Granth Sahib, you could hauled up on charges of Islamophic incitement of hatred:

You mad fam? what u on?

We have COUNTLESS katha's over here and nothing has happened.

Anyways I don't wanna start up a fight over countries. Sikhi is everywhere.

 

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4 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Respectfully, no it is not, bro. Generally, in such areas it is illegal to discharge a weapon. 

But that means, shooting for the sake of it, like target practice or whatever. It is not illegal to defend yourself in your home against an invader.

As for cities, it is difficult to keep guns legally in Chicago, NYC, and Washington, DC. Other than that, it's generally OK.

If you compare gun-rights to the Rural Midwest and the Rural South, to the Suburban regions, there's a huge disparity between gun rights.

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38 minutes ago, SoulSingh said:

At this point, only Texas does, Cali (where I'm from) lost it with the rise of liberal ideas

Don't exaggerate, bro. Texas is not the only state that allows the right to bear arms. Every state does, with some variations. 40 states have the right to bear arms in their state constitutions.

That's in addition to the Federal constitution's guarantee. 

California has restricted magazine size, but that's far from saying they have banned guns.

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2 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

If you compare gun-rights to the Rural Midwest and the Rural South, to the Suburban regions, there's a huge disparity between gun rights.

While that's true, it doesn't matter that much. Generally, you don't have the right to pop off your gun at your pleasure in suburban areas, but in such areas, you don't have a lot large enough to do target shooting. The main thing you care about in such areas is simply keeping a gun somewhere in the house to defend against an armed invader. And defending yourself in such a situation is generally legal.

What I'm saying is target shooting or pleasure shooting is illegal in the suburbs, but you couldn't do it anyway even if it were legal, so what does it matter?

If you want to shoot for fun, you either go to a target range for the day, or you buy a farm/ranch outside the suburban area. And that's fine, I think. 

What's your opinion?

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14 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Yes. But that has never extended to government buildings. What planet is this guy on?

ehh not sure if that was directed at me or the gentlemen in the OP. I was referring to the US as a whole, I'm well aware it doesn't apply to government buildings. 

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2 minutes ago, BhForce said:

While that's true, it doesn't matter that much. Generally, you don't have the right to pop off your gun at your pleasure in suburban areas, but in such areas, you don't have a lot large enough to do target shooting. The main thing you care about in such areas is simply keeping a gun somewhere in the house to defend against an armed invader. And defending yourself in such a situation is generally legal.

What I'm saying is target shooting or pleasure shooting is illegal in the suburbs, but you couldn't do it anyway even if it were legal, so what does it matter?

If you want to shoot for fun, you either go to a target range for the day, or you buy a farm/ranch outside the suburban area. And that's fine, I think. 

What's your opinion?

Quote from Ron Paul:

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Gun-free zones don't make any difference

Gun-control advocates tell us that removing guns from society makes us safer. But that is simply an impossibility. The fact is that firearm technology exists. It cannot be uninvented. As long as there is metalworking and welding capability, it matters no what gun laws are imposed upon law-abiding people. Those who wish to have guns, and disregard the law, will have guns. Paradoxically, gun control clears a path for violence and makes aggression more likely, whether the aggressor is a terrorist or a government. I don't really believe "gun-free" zones make any difference. If they did, why would the worst shootings consistently happen in gun-free zones such as schools? And while accidents do happen, aggressive, terroristic shootings like this are unheard of at gun and knife shows, the antithesis of a gun-free zone. It bears repeating that an armed society truly is a polite society. Even if you don't like guns and don't want to own them, you benefit from those who do."

There should be no restrictions on gun rights.

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8 minutes ago, monatosingh said:

You mad fam? what u on?

We have COUNTLESS katha's over here and nothing has happened.

Anyways I don't wanna start up a fight over countries. Sikhi is everywhere.

 

No, bro, I'm not mad. Tell me this: Was or was not the Sikh Channel brought up on charges when it had a discussion about 1984?

I'm not talking about COUNTLESS kathas on pedestrian topics like not cheating or stealing. I said katha about specific sections of Bani. Since I mentioned the word Islamophobic, you should be able to guess the sections I"m talking about.

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