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Is Dehdari allow as satguru according to Satguru Granth Sahib ji ?


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ਕਵਣ ਮੂਲੁ ਕਵਣ ਮਤਿ ਵੇਲਾ  
कवण मूलु कवण मति वेला ॥ 
Kavaṇ mūl kavaṇ maṯ velā. 
(Ask the Yogis) Q. 45: What is the origin of life? 
 
ਤੇਰਾ ਕਵਣੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਜਿਸ ਕਾ ਤੂ ਚੇਲਾ  
तेरा कवणु गुरू जिस का तू चेला ॥ 
Ŧerā kavaṇ gurū jis kā ṯū cẖelā. 
Q. 46: Which faith has sway at the present time? 
 
ਕਵਣ ਕਥਾ ਲੇ ਰਹਹੁ ਨਿਰਾਲੇ  
कवण कथा ले रहहु निराले ॥ 
Kavaṇ kathā le rahhu nirāle. 
Q. 47: Who is thy Guru, of whom thou art the disciple? 
 
ਬੋਲੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਤੁਮ ਬਾਲੇ  
बोलै नानकु सुणहु तुम बाले ॥ 
Bolai Nānak suṇhu ṯum bāle. 
Q. 48: What is the discourse, uttering which thou remains detached? 
 
ਏਸੁ ਕਥਾ ਕਾ ਦੇਇ ਬੀਚਾਰੁ  
एसु कथा का देइ बीचारु ॥ 
Ės kathā kā ḏe▫e bīcẖār. 
Hearken thou to what we say, O boy Nanak. 
 

ਭਵਜਲੁ ਸਬਦਿ ਲੰਘਾਵਣਹਾਰੁ ॥੪੩॥ 
भवजलु सबदि लंघावणहारु ॥४३॥ 
Bẖavjal sabaḏ langẖāvaṇhār. ||43|| 
Q. 49: Give thou the exposition of this discourse; How does the Lord ferry the man across the terrible ocean? 

ਪਵਨ ਅਰੰਭੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮਤਿ ਵੇਲਾ  
पवन अर्मभु सतिगुर मति वेला ॥ 
Pavan arambẖ saṯgur maṯ velā. 
(Answers the Guru) A. 45: The breath is the origin of life. A. 46: It is the time of the sway of the faith of the True Guru. 
 
ਸਬਦੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਧੁਨਿ ਚੇਲਾ  
सबदु गुरू सुरति धुनि चेला ॥ 
Sabaḏ gurū suraṯ ḏẖun cẖelā. 
A. 47: The Lord is my Guru, whose meditation, I, His disciple, greatly love. 
 
ਅਕਥ ਕਥਾ ਲੇ ਰਹਉ ਨਿਰਾਲਾ  
अकथ कथा ले रहउ निराला ॥ 
Akath kathā le raha▫o nirālā. 
A. 48: Uttering the discourse of the Ineffable Lord I remain detached. 
 
ਨਾਨਕ ਜੁਗਿ ਜੁਗਿ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਪਾਲਾ  
नानक जुगि जुगि गुर गोपाला ॥ 
Nānak jug jug gur gopālā. 
Nanak, all the ages through, God, the cherisher of the world, is my Guru. 
 
ਏਕੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਜਿਤੁ ਕਥਾ ਵੀਚਾਰੀ  
एकु सबदु जितु कथा वीचारी ॥ 
Ėk sabaḏ jiṯ kathā vīcẖārī. 
A. 49: Such is the unique Lord, by meditating on whose Divine discourse, the man crosses the terrible ocean. 
 
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਅਗਨਿ ਨਿਵਾਰੀ ॥੪੪॥ 
गुरमुखि हउमै अगनि निवारी ॥४४॥ 
Gurmukẖ ha▫umai agan nivārī. ||44|| 
Thus does the Guru-ward quench his fire of self-conceit. 

SGGS ji Angs 942 - 943

?? Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji

 

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3 hours ago, Master said:

and ask where it is written  in gurbani that human can not be a guru ?

This is the same as saying "ask where it is written in gurbani that human can be a guru"

The dehdari people are not Sikhs, but following a cult and probably some man that they call their guru. 

As Sikhs we do not bow down to any other, than Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. 

There are people that will try to twist and misinterpret Gurbani for their own agenda. Don't fall for it, and don't just take anybody's words for what they say. Read Gurbani yourself, ask questions, listen to katha on Gurbani. Make yourself equipped with knowledge for yourself. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise, until you understand the meanings yourself. 

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Different faiths/religions have different definitions of the word Guru. But as a Sikh, you only need to be concerned with what it means to Sikhs. 

I find it very irritating, when people who are not Sikhs, think they have the right to ask what's written in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji about what something means to prove their definition right. If they are not following Sikhi, then they don't have a right to question Guruji either and should carry on with their own stuff of whatever they are doing. But trying to justify themselves by comparing to Guruji's words is an unwise path to tread along. How can somebody who follows something else relate the two together? They can't, when they don't have follow or practice the same things, can they. It doesn't make sense, but it shows they only want to belittle Sikhi and do their own thing. 

When you start getting questions like this, it's a sign that they are being taught what to say. It's called brainwashing and misleading people to follow them. 

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On 9/7/2017 at 4:53 PM, simran345 said:

This is the same as saying "ask where it is written in gurbani that human can be a guru"

The dehdari people are not Sikhs, but following a cult and probably some man that they call their guru. 

As Sikhs we do not bow down to any other, than Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. 

There are people that will try to twist and misinterpret Gurbani for their own agenda. Don't fall for it, and don't just take anybody's words for what they say. Read Gurbani yourself, ask questions, listen to katha on Gurbani. Make yourself equipped with knowledge for yourself. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise, until you understand the meanings yourself. 

who are the sikhs? where is written that dehdari are not sikhs then our 10 guru were also in deh in body what will you say about them ? our gurus write that

ਸਿਖੀ ਸਿਖਿਆ ਗੁਰ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ॥

Sikhee Sikhiaa Gur Veechaar ||

Contemplating the Guru, I have been taught these teachings;

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1 hour ago, DayaKaur said:

who are the sikhs? where is written that dehdari are not sikhs then our 10 guru were also in deh in body what will you say about them ? our gurus write that

ਸਿਖੀ ਸਿਖਿਆ ਗੁਰ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ॥

Sikhee Sikhiaa Gur Veechaar ||

Contemplating the Guru, I have been taught these teachings;

Another confused troll. 

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simple answer is Guru Granth Sahib says again and again  Akal Purakh is the Satguru   and the Bani is the Guru 

Guru Amar Das ji in Salok Mahala 3 tells us on ang 515:

 

Waho Waho banee nirankaar hai tis jayvad avar na ko-ay.
Waaho! Waaho! is the Bani, the Word, of the Formless Lord. There is no other as
great as He is.

Waho Waho agam athaahu hai Waho Waho sachaa so-ay.
Waaho! Waaho! The Lord is unfathomable and inaccessible. Waaho! Waaho! He is the True One.

Waho Waho vaypar Waho hai Waho Waho karay so ho-ay.
Waaho! Waaho! He is the self-existent Lord. Waaho! Waaho! As He wills, so it comes to pass.

Waho Waho amrit naam hai gurmukh paavai ko-ay.
Waaho! Waaho! is the Ambrosial Nectar of the Naam, the Name of the Lord, obtained by the Gurmukh.

Waho Waho karmee paa-ee-ai aap da-i-aa kar day-ay.
Waaho! Waaho! This is realized by His Grace, as He Himself grants His Grace.

naanak Waho Waho gurmukh paa-ee-ai an-din naam la-ay-ay
O Nanak, Waaho! Waaho! This is obtained by the Gurmukhs, who hold tight to the Naam, night and day.

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52 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

simple answer is Guru Granth Sahib says again and again  Akal Purakh is the Satguru   and the Bani is the Guru 

Guru Amar Das ji in Salok Mahala 3 tells us on ang 515:

 

Waho Waho banee nirankaar hai tis jayvad avar na ko-ay.
Waaho! Waaho! is the Bani, the Word, of the Formless Lord. There is no other as
great as He is.

Waho Waho agam athaahu hai Waho Waho sachaa so-ay.
Waaho! Waaho! The Lord is unfathomable and inaccessible. Waaho! Waaho! He is the True One.

Waho Waho vaypar Waho hai Waho Waho karay so ho-ay.
Waaho! Waaho! He is the self-existent Lord. Waaho! Waaho! As He wills, so it comes to pass.

Waho Waho amrit naam hai gurmukh paavai ko-ay.
Waaho! Waaho! is the Ambrosial Nectar of the Naam, the Name of the Lord, obtained by the Gurmukh.

Waho Waho karmee paa-ee-ai aap da-i-aa kar day-ay.
Waaho! Waaho! This is realized by His Grace, as He Himself grants His Grace.

naanak Waho Waho gurmukh paa-ee-ai an-din naam la-ay-ay
O Nanak, Waaho! Waaho! This is obtained by the Gurmukhs, who hold tight to the Naam, night and day.

 

 

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7 hours ago, DayaKaur said:

who are the sikhs? where is written that dehdari are not sikhs then our 10 guru were also in deh in body what will you say about them ? our gurus write that

ਸਿਖੀ ਸਿਖਿਆ ਗੁਰ ਵੀਚਾਰਿ ॥

Sikhee Sikhiaa Gur Veechaar ||

Contemplating the Guru, I have been taught these teachings;

They were never Dehdhari,

7 hours ago, DayaKaur said:

Firstly you tell about our 10 dehdari guru they were also come with human body

There aren't any human Gurus ever, any person with this thinking of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji has failed to understand who he is, and he is God, Vaheguru, Nirankar, Ajooni, Akal. That is who Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji is, not some man.

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28 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

They were never Dehdhari,

There aren't any human Gurus ever, any person with this thinking of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji has failed to understand who he is, and he is God, Vaheguru, Nirankar, Ajooni, Akal. That is who Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji is, not some man.

Thank you @Jacfsing2 paji for writing what I wanted to. Just don't have the energy to explain it no more to people that don't want to listen. ?

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