Why Sikhs cant be exonerated for rise of Ram Rahims in and around Punjab

[Kira]

1 minute ago, jaspindjy said:

No comment.

Of course you don't have a comment. Gurbani disproved you, So now inside you're scared and frightened. One side wants to stay loyal to your Lady Maya (Caste) while the other is confused by it all. 

This is all perfectly normal for growing up. 

[Guest Jacfsing2]

3 minutes ago, jaspindjy said:

You are too profane.

Man, listen to some of the junk you've been spreading.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

2 minutes ago, Kira said:

Of course you don't have a comment. Gurbani disproved you, So now inside you're scared and frightened. One side wants to stay loyal to your Lady Maya (Caste) while the other is confused by it all. 

This is all perfectly normal for growing up. 

That guy already edited that.

[Kira]

2 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

That guy already edited that.

Yeahhhh he's been bested. Now we sit back and watch him self-destruct. Oh the joys of the Internet.

 

[Guest Jacfsing2]

4 minutes ago, jaspindjy said:

i AM A JATT AND VERY VERY PROUD OF MY CASTE. YOU CAN BURN WITH JEALOUSY AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE .

Nobody is jealous of you. Honestly I see you as some kid playing some game where they try to show how great they are, but in reality, just someone with an inflated ego.

[Kira]

14 minutes ago, silverSingh said:

 

It is best not to say too much when people talk about castes because if you do say anything opposite or show any agitation people automatically assume you belong to low caste. You must both be low caste sikhs to agitate so much. Your posts indicate that you both are not  of jat caste.

You're right I'm not of Jat Caste, I don't have a caste. I'd rather sit around with the so called "Shudra" than anyone else. Seek the company of the lowliest.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

2 hours ago, silverSingh said:

It is best not to say too much when people talk about castes because if you do say anything opposite or show any agitation people automatically assume you belong to low caste. You must both be low caste sikhs to agitate so much. Your posts indicate that you both are not of jat caste.

I never claimed to be Jat whatsoever, or any caste really, (not really important if you ask me, whether I'm a Brahmin or Dalit especially in this day and age). But I'd rather be of the lowest caste and a real Sikh, than being the highest caste and being some heretic.

[JSinghnz]

5 hours ago, jaspindjy said:

i AM A JATT AND VERY VERY PROUD OF MY CASTE. YOU CAN BURN WITH JEALOUSY AS MUCH AS YOU LIKE .

Gurbani has an answer for non Sikhs like you ( stop pretending to be a Sikh, you are just a casteist mindset ignorant individual who has no understanding  of Sikhi.

 

Those having the false pride of caste are called "fool" and "ignorant" in the Gurbani. To put it otherwise, as the Gurbani indicates, those who practice caste distinction and feel pride of their belief in Jaat-Paat are foolish and spiritually ignorant beings.

• ਜਾਤਿ ਕਾ ਗਰਬੁ ਨ ਕਰਿ ਮੂਰਖ ਗਵਾਰਾ ॥ ਇਸੁ ਗਰਬ ਤੇ ਚਲਹਿ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਵਿਕਾਰਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਚਾਰੇ ਵਰਨ ਆਖੈ ਸਭੁ ਕੋਈ ॥ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਿੰਦ ਤੇ ਸਭ ਓਪਤਿ ਹੋਈ ॥੨॥ ਮਾਟੀ ਏਕ ਸਗਲ ਸੰਸਾਰਾ ॥ ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧਿ ਭਾਂਡੇ ਘੜੈ ਕੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਰਾ ॥੩॥ ਪੰਚ ਤਤੁ ਮਿਲਿ ਦੇਹੀ ਕਾ ਆਕਾਰਾ ॥ ਘਟਿ ਵਧਿ ਕੋ ਕਰੈ ਬੀਚਾਰਾ ॥੪॥: Jaat kaa garab n kar moorakh gavaaraa. Is garab te chalahi bahut vikaaraa ||1||Rahaaou||...: Do not be proud of your (higher or ਉੱਚੀ) Jaati, you ignorant fool! So much Bikaar comes from this pride. ||1||Rahaaou|| Every one says there are four Varan (four social classes or caste - Brahmin, Khatri, Vaish, Shoodar - but) all emanate from God's Seed (from One Light). ||2|| As the potter shapes all sorts of vessels, similarly, so is this entire universe (shaped from One Clay of God's Light). ||3|| The five elements join together, to make up the form of the human body. Who can say which has less (elements), and which has more (elements)? ||4|| (sggs 1127-1128).

 

 

[JSinghnz]

1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I never claimed to be Jat whatsoever, or any caste really, (not really important if you ask me, whether I'm a Brahmin or Dalit especially in this day and age). But I'd rather be of the lowest caste and a real Sikh, than being the highest caste and being some heretic.

Real Sikhs have no caste.

[simran345]

5 hours ago, silverSingh said:

 

It is best not to say too much when people talk about castes because if you do say anything opposite or show any agitation people automatically assume you belong to low caste. You must both be low caste sikhs to agitate so much. Your posts indicate that you both are not  of jat caste.

It's got nothing to do with what caste one comes from. Those that think there are high and low castes, especially in this day and age really need to do some soul searching. It's not rocket science to understand what's being said about caste in the threads and numerous other past threads. If people want to cling onto their castes and be proud of it, then that's ego. Because there's nothing to be proud of a caste, it's the qualities of a person that one looks at, and not their caste, that's where the pride should be. Not, that they are from flana themkara caste. 

The Gurus never said they were proud of being so and so caste, so why should we? Something to think about  ?.