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ਜਲਿ ਥਲਿ ਜੀਆ ਪੁਰੀਆ ਲੋਆ ਆਕਾਰਾ ਆਕਾਰ  
जलि थलि जीआ पुरीआ लोआ आकारा आकार ॥ 
Jal thal jī▫ā purī▫ā lo▫ā ākārā ākār. 
There are beings in water, on land, in the worlds, in the universes and in the worlds, in the germs and microbes. 
SGGS ji Ang 466

?? Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji

 

 

ਤਿਥੈ ਖੰਡ ਮੰਡਲ ਵਰਭੰਡ  
तिथै खंड मंडल वरभंड ॥ 
Ŧithai kẖand mandal varbẖand. 
There are planets, solar systems and galaxies. 
 
ਜੇ ਕੋ ਕਥੈ ਤ ਅੰਤ ਨ ਅੰਤ  
जे को कथै त अंत न अंत ॥ 
Je ko kathai ṯa anṯ na anṯ. 
If one speaks of them, there is no limit, no end. 
 
ਤਿਥੈ ਲੋਅ ਲੋਅ ਆਕਾਰ  
तिथै लोअ लोअ आकार ॥ 
Ŧithai lo▫a lo▫a ākār. 
There are worlds upon worlds of His Creation. 
 
ਜਿਵ ਜਿਵ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਤਿਵੈ ਤਿਵ ਕਾਰ  
जिव जिव हुकमु तिवै तिव कार ॥ 
Jiv jiv hukam ṯivai ṯiv kār. 
As He commands, so they exist. 
 
ਵੇਖੈ ਵਿਗਸੈ ਕਰਿ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ  
वेखै विगसै करि वीचारु ॥ 
vekẖai vigsai kar vīcẖār. 
He watches over all, and contemplating the creation, He rejoices. 
 

ਨਾਨਕ ਕਥਨਾ ਕਰੜਾ ਸਾਰੁ ॥੩੭॥ 
नानक कथना करड़ा सारु ॥३७॥ 
Nānak kathnā karṛā sār. ||37|| 
O Nanak, to describe this is as hard as steel! ||37|| 

SGGS Ji Ang 8

?? Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji

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ਨਾਮ ਕੇ ਧਾਰੇ ਸਗਲੇ ਜੰਤ  
नाम के धारे सगले जंत ॥ 
Nām ke ḏẖāre sagle janṯ. 
By the Name are sustained all the creatures. 
 
ਨਾਮ ਕੇ ਧਾਰੇ ਖੰਡ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡ  
नाम के धारे खंड ब्रहमंड ॥ 
Nām ke ḏẖāre kẖand barahmand. 
By the Name are supported the regions of the earth and solar-systems. 
 
ਨਾਮ ਕੇ ਧਾਰੇ ਸਿਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ  
नाम के धारे सिम्रिति बेद पुरान ॥ 
Nām ke ḏẖāre simriṯ beḏ purān. 
By God's Name are supported the Simirtis, the Vedas and the Puranas. 
 
ਨਾਮ ਕੇ ਧਾਰੇ ਸੁਨਨ ਗਿਆਨ ਧਿਆਨ  
नाम के धारे सुनन गिआन धिआन ॥ 
Nām ke ḏẖāre sunan gi▫ān ḏẖi▫ān. 
By the Name's support the mortals hear of Divine knowledge and meditation. 
 
ਨਾਮ ਕੇ ਧਾਰੇ ਆਗਾਸ ਪਾਤਾਲ  
नाम के धारे आगास पाताल ॥ 
Nām ke ḏẖāre āgās pāṯāl. 
Lord's Name is the prop of the skies and under-worlds. 
 
ਨਾਮ ਕੇ ਧਾਰੇ ਸਗਲ ਆਕਾਰ  
नाम के धारे सगल आकार ॥ 
Nām ke ḏẖāre sagal ākār. 
Lord's Name is the prop of the bodies. 
 
ਨਾਮ ਕੇ ਧਾਰੇ ਪੁਰੀਆ ਸਭ ਭਵਨ  
नाम के धारे पुरीआ सभ भवन ॥ 
Nām ke ḏẖāre purī▫ā sabẖ bẖavan. 
By the Name are supported all the worlds and spheres. 
 
ਨਾਮ ਕੈ ਸੰਗਿ ਉਧਰੇ ਸੁਨਿ ਸ੍ਰਵਨ  
नाम कै संगि उधरे सुनि स्रवन ॥ 
Nām kai sang uḏẖre sun sarvan. 
Men have been saved by associating with the Name and hearing it with their ears. 
 
ਕਰਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਜਿਸੁ ਆਪਨੈ ਨਾਮਿ ਲਾਏ  
करि किरपा जिसु आपनै नामि लाए ॥ 
Kar kirpā jis āpnai nām lā▫e. 
Whom the Master mercifully attaches to His Name, 
 

ਨਾਨਕ ਚਉਥੇ ਪਦ ਮਹਿ ਸੋ ਜਨੁ ਗਤਿ ਪਾਏ ॥੫॥ 
नानक चउथे पद महि सो जनु गति पाए ॥५॥ 
Nānak cẖa▫uthe paḏ mėh so jan gaṯ pā▫e. ||5|| 
O Nanak, the servant obtains salvation and gets into the fourth state of beatitude. 

SGGS ji Ang 284

?? Dhan Guru Arjan Dev ji

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What I'm saying is that from a physical perspective; if you look at our solar system you have mars Saturn jupiter Uranus etc.

If you think Aliens with super flying machines live on those planets then you are mad.  And if you think farther away galaxies can come here then that's a joke.  What Guru Nanak Dev Ji did with Peer Dastgeer son was not on a physical level.  This must have been on a supernatural/spiritual level.  Just like the Devas and Indras and Brahmas live on a higher ???????

The truth is we don't know our own human lives, consciousness and the universe.  But if you think extra terrestrial aliens live on other planets and have spaceships and come and chat to Donald Trump on area51 then I think youre mad.

There are other life forms just as Guru Nanak Ji proved to Dastgeer but this is on some sort of different spiritual/metaphysical/supernatural level, not on a physical level. This is my opinion I could be wrong.

I would also like to say there are no such things as Devils, Anti Christ, Lucifer 

GREAT DISCUSSION KEEP IT IM ENJOYING A DECENT THREAD FOR ONCE

 

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4 hours ago, sikhni777 said:

There have been references of fallen angels coming to earth and reproducing with men. So the present day aliens can actually be just a mix of dna to create forms with a body and also provide them with demonic powers.

Scientists mostly believe that some aliens have no digestive system thus their way if feeding is through the skin. This takes place through placing the body in a tank full of human blood so that they can feed. In order to survive and carry on their works they need human bodies,  for which they trade information of how to create loads of high tech equipment.  Who invented the laser or the mobile phone?  There are many new things with no inventors.

These aliens are actually demons which have their homes in the universe.  They have used human bodies to create hybrid races. 

They continue to do so and they need the co- operation of humans. They force human scientists to work under them. Lots of things and knowledge is invented to divert people from God.

All happenings are not caused by God. These beings have ways of manipulating events. The book forms a very good informative read though it has a Christian basis. It demystifies a lot for us which goes on unseen.

The book shows the power of uttering the name of God just once. All evil is taken care of and angels are eent for the protection of such a person . Therefore it is important to say Waheguru as much as possible during the daytime. 

lol STAY OFF THE CHURCH WINE HA,HA,HA,HA

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4 hours ago, simran345 said:

That's all very well. But everything you've wrote in there, you've also stated it is a Christian view. Where's the Sikh view? Why should I believe it's true? It would be good if you'd have given a Sikhi view as isn't that what we are aiming for? 

THE SIKH VIEW IS SIMILAR TO HINDU BUDDHIST COSMOLIGY .....THE LINK IS AT THE TOP

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56 minutes ago, singh598 said:

THE SIKH VIEW IS SIMILAR TO HINDU BUDDHIST COSMOLIGY .....THE LINK IS AT THE TOP

It really isn't. 

1 hour ago, singh598 said:

What I'm saying is that from a physical perspective; if you look at our solar system you have mars Saturn jupiter Uranus etc.

If you think Aliens with super flying machines live on those planets then you are mad.  And if you think farther away galaxies can come here then that's a joke.  What Guru Nanak Dev Ji did with Peer Dastgeer son was not on a physical level.  This must have been on a supernatural/spiritual level.  Just like the Devas and Indras and Brahmas live on a higher ???????

Devtas cant hope to do what Guru Sahib did, they themselves have a physical form. But what Guru Sahib did was be everywhere at once (omnipresent), only God can do that. Sure Indra, Brahma, Shiva, Vishnu can all travel around the universe but none of them can be everywhere at once. 

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The truth is we don't know our own human lives, consciousness and the universe.  But if you think extra terrestrial aliens live on other planets and have spaceships and come and chat to Donald Trump on area51 then I think youre mad.

Bro you should check out Ancient Aliens, alot of it is really nonsense but some of it is really interesting. 

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There are other life forms just as Guru Nanak Ji proved to Dastgeer but this is on some sort of different spiritual/metaphysical/supernatural level, not on a physical level. This is my opinion I could be wrong

You're right imo. They do exist as ethereal beings too (life forms) but physical ones are also there. Once you open your Dasam Dwar you can see all of them. Really fascinating stuff.

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