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Why sikh migration outside punjab is ultimate downfall of sikhi

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While it is good to see sikhs moving to various countries and apparently it leads us to believe sikhism is "spreading". 

However , back in our homeland of punjab , our numbers are dwindling at an alarming rate. By our numbers , I mean basic "turbaned kesdhari youth who doesn't trim beard".

While punjabi sikhs leave for foreign countries, the population void is swiftly replaced by immigrant HINDUS ! Slowly our punjab and its culture is becoming more hindu than sikh. 

Give a couple of decades on this path and punjab would be hindu dominated and these are going to have serious ramifications for sikhs and panth politics.   

While youth tread on this path of patit-puna , what is even more shocking is callousness shown by the parents and elders. Apparently , as long as your son is successful , you as a coconut sikh parent couldn't care less about whether he keeps his hair unshorn, trims his beard or wears a turban.  And I am sure his prospect wife also doesn't care. Infact he might as well get more rishtey because he doesn't have a "bushy beard" and apparently that translates to "better looking" . 

We seriously need to consider where we're heading to before we become like the Jains ( they don't have any political power or majority in any state in india) . 

Fortunately , there's an easy solution to this problem : have more kids per couple. Atleast 3 kids , the very least. 

Start orphanages and slowly bring orphans to sikhi . And so on 

Unfortunately , sangat always scoffed at the idea of more kids and we barely run orphanages

We need to stop moving out of our homeland for "better" pastures. Cutting off from our root can never make us thrive

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3 hours ago, veer83 said:

See If the ~2-3 million Sikhs came back to Punjab, we wouldn't need immigrants from UP/ Bihar.

Like Sikhs would ever do the work biharis do. Get real mate. 

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Just now, veer83 said:

Poverty leaves you with no choice. Also what kind of work are you talking about!

Well what work are the immigrants doing in Panjab that diaspora Sikhs should return to Panjab to do? 

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Well yeah you're right. It's not only Punjabi Sikhs which immigrate, punjabi's hindus do as well, but the immigrants in Punjab are typically Hindu/ Muslim.

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What people need to stop doing is spending MASSIVE fortunes to turn their kids into 'donkees' to get them abroad. 

Unless the economy diversifies out their - i.e. f**k farming - we'll always have these problems. 

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3 minutes ago, veer83 said:

Poverty leaves you with no choice. Also what kind of work are you talking about!

Realistically speaking why would anyone return to a place where jobs are scarce, and the jobs that are available treat you like terribly. In society there is a ranking system, and in that system in Punjab, the Biharis are the lowest common denominator, (a comparison in America would Hispanics). The reason people go oversea is because of a terrible economy and all the jobs are too low for any modern Punjabi person to do, and the diaspora will be even more stupid for going back. Even O.P. has left Punjab to find work elsewhere, all he can do is be hypocritical.

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27 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Realistically speaking why would anyone return to a place where jobs are scarce, and the jobs that are available treat you like terribly. In society there is a ranking system, and in that system in Punjab, the Biharis are the lowest common denominator, (a comparison in America would Hispanics). The reason people go oversea is because of a terrible economy and all the jobs are too low for any modern Punjabi person to do, and the diaspora will be even more stupid for going back. Even O.P. has left Punjab to find work elsewhere, all he can do is be hypocritical.

He would be hypocritical if he called others out for leaving, simply recognizing the problem doesn't make one a hypocrite.

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1 hour ago, veer83 said:

Scheduled "lower-caste" Hindus should be converted into Sikhs, that's the only way Punjab can prosper.

with the active shiv-sena and right-wingers in punjab, best of luck getting that done.

BTW, we sikhs first need to accept our own before we go to the neighbor's backyard. Why did ravidasias split ? why we still don't accept mazhabis ? why we still marry in "caste" ?

honestly, we the present day sikhs are a disgrace to our ancestor and gurus 

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Sikhs should spread out. We're only messing up because we do such a tutti job of converting others (and retaining those born into it), unlike some other communities. 

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59 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Sikhs should spread out. We're only messing up because we do such a tutti job of converting others (and retaining those born into it), unlike some other communities. 

Not really lol, those other communities have much higher fertility rates, Pakistan only got more than half of punjab because of the demographics favouring the Muslim population - because of the consistently high fertility rates between Muslims (sure many were forcefully converted, but it's difficult adapting to an Abrahamic religion, from an Indian religion) . 

edit: Same case with Muslims within Punjab right now..... within a few decades you'll see Sikhi die out (because of low fertility rates more than irreligiosity), you'll see more Hindus become atheists (though the Indian census won't likely accept atheism), and Muslims increase fast in population %.

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