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Sandeep Kaur Samra radicalised by terrorists

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15 minutes ago, Destruction said:

Sister, have you seen how many Sikh girls post selfies on Instagram who have over 3-10thousad followers??? These type of women are no good. All tey want is attention from the wrong type f men. They want rich men to spoil them rotten, designer shoes bags holidays all for sex. Nothing but cheap women in this current generation of 17-35 year old Sikh women. 

Well said, brother. The way in which some people use social media is totally against Gurmat. If people knew Gurmat, they would not try to show off in vanity through social media (or through any other way):

ਜੋ ਜਾਨੈ ਮੈ ਜੋਬਨਵੰਤੁ ॥

One who deems himself to have the beauty of youth,

ਗਉੜੀ ਸੁਖਮਨੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੨), ੧:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੨੭੮
 

ਸੋ ਹੋਵਤ ਬਿਸਟਾ ਕਾ ਜੰਤੁ ॥

Shall become a maggot in manure.

ਗਉੜੀ ਸੁਖਮਨੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੨), ੧:੪ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੨੭੮ 
 

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If any person of any background is trying to cause a threat to humanity, the first thing any respectable group should do is stop them, not feel sympathy towards them. This idea of sympathy towards bad people who are out to destroy everything we try to do. Also people in the U.K, whether they are Christian or Sikh or whatever non-Muslim religion should realize that Islam is not just a normal religion, but an extremist cult that shouldn't be allowed to grow. In the same way the Brits are forgetting about the sacrifices of the Crusaders who died for the Isaat of their Pakhandi Baba to free their holy land of Jerusalem from these Islamist groups, we Sikhs should not forget that our holy Gurus gave their lives and the Sahibzadey gave their lives, but never converted to Islam.

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18 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

If any person of any background is trying to cause a threat to humanity, the first thing any respectable group should do is stop them, not feel sympathy towards them. This idea of sympathy towards bad people who are out to destroy everything we try to do. Also people in the U.K, whether they are Christian or Sikh or whatever non-Muslim religion should realize that Islam is not just a normal religion, but an extremist cult that shouldn't be allowed to grow. In the same way the Brits are forgetting about the sacrifices of the Crusaders who died for the Isaat of their Pakhandi Baba to free their holy land of Jerusalem from these Islamist groups, we Sikhs should not forget that our holy Gurus gave their lives and the Sahibzadey gave their lives, but never converted to Islam.

Islam, Christianity and judaism all have this funda-mentalist attitude towards the world and contempt for non-believers. They all believe in the judgement day, earth created in 6 days, believe in adam and eve story, believe in the evil eye (envy/nazar), all believe in evil spirits/ghosts/jinns and exorcism, all believe they are the only saved ones, all believe in converting the world to their religion only because everyone else is going to hell-fire.

 

 

 

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i saw this comment by a supposed "kaur" a so called sikh woman on sikh youth birmingham facebook page and was appalled by her attitude.

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3 hours ago, superkaur said:

Also on instagram and other social media networks there is a determinated effort by dawah islamists to convert girls to their evil ideology. I see how impressionable girls are being lured by islamists with various tricks of trying to make islam look sugar coated yet their own faith is neglected because they are not being presented with peer pressure to conform to sikhi as muslims do to their friends and family.

Can you please share links to where this is happening.. I would love to report them 

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5 minutes ago, superkaur said:

i saw this comment by a supposed "kaur" a so called sikh woman on sikh youth birmingham facebook page and was appalled by her attitude.

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What's wrong with that? What was the context? 

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12 minutes ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Can you please share links to where this is happening.. I would love to report them 

Report them for what? They don't make their activities known so openly unless they stupid or ISIS types on twitter.

There is no law or social media guidelines/rules to stop dawah islamist's from converting girls to islam or anyone converting anyone to any other faith.

And muslim extremists don't go around shouting from roof tops they are extremists they lure in girls bit by bit slowly but surely first giving them general similarities between islam and their non-muslim faith then start to big up islam saying how wonderful it is and how you should be worshiping allah rather than your book or idol or jesus. Then a few months down the line when you start coming around to the idea your a muslim cos you said the shahada they start laying on the heavy stuff of how all non-muslims are going to hellfire and even muslims if they dont do x.y.z according to what the muslim extremist wants them to brainwash them with.

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14 minutes ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

What's wrong with that? What was the context? 

whats wrong with that? ok so your not a sikh then? people on here have been saying your a non-sikh punjabi atheist female troll or a undercover islamist troll for a few months now.

I think its pointless addressing your posts if don't even know whats wrong with what she is saying.

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14 minutes ago, superkaur said:

Islam, Christianity and judaism all have this funda-mentalist attitude towards the world and contempt for non-believers. They all believe in the judgement day, earth created in 6 days, believe in adam and eve story, believe in the evil eye (envy/nazar), all believe in evil spirits/ghosts/jinns and exorcism, all believe they are the only saved ones, all believe in converting the world to their religion only because everyone else is going to hell-fire.

Gurmat is the only truth, that said whatever most people believe privately is up to them; however, among those 3 only Islam in recent times has been forcibly converting people and only Islamic fundamentalists in today's time are actively making lives hell for those who don't follow Islam. Just compare the treatement individuals get from Saudi Arabia compared to America, (the most religious wealthy country), and you can see it's a completely different world.

 

Also what many people seem to be forgetting is that this woman didn't just convert to Islam and run away from home, she went to Syria most likely to support extremists, who would then kill innocent people. That is why I would have to say that people who can cause harm to society regardless what background should be treated as such.

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20 minutes ago, superkaur said:

i saw this comment by a supposed "kaur" a so called sikh woman on sikh youth birmingham facebook page and was appalled by her attitude.

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Even though she seems to have "Kaur" in her name, "Archer" doesn't sound like any Subcontinental last name I heard of, nor does "Kim" have any Sikh relation towards it. Maybe it's a troll account.

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10 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Even though she seems to have "Kaur" in her name, "Archer" doesn't sound like any Subcontinental last name I heard of, nor does "Kim" have any Sikh relation towards it. Maybe it's a troll account.

I looked at her fb account it seem shes genuine probably one of them typical fully punjabi or mixed punjabi atheist types sikh by name but atheist by mind and actions.

Alot of liberal or mixed race girls from sikh background tend to have zero knowledge or love for Sikhi and its uniqueness they usually are born and brought up to believe all faiths are equal when evidently they are not.

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55 minutes ago, superkaur said:

Report them for what? They don't make their activities known so openly unless they stupid or ISIS types on twitter.

There is no law or social media guidelines/rules to stop dawah islamist's from converting girls to islam or anyone converting anyone to any other faith.

And muslim extremists don't go around shouting from roof tops they are extremists they lure in girls bit by bit slowly but surely first giving them general similarities between islam and their non-muslim faith then start to big up islam saying how wonderful it is and how you should be worshiping allah rather than your book or idol or jesus. Then a few months down the line when you start coming around to the idea your a muslim cos you said the shahada they start laying on the heavy stuff of how all non-muslims are going to hellfire and even muslims if they dont do x.y.z according to what the muslim extremist wants them to brainwash them with.

I don't understand I thought you said they were on Instagram?... 

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3 hours ago, superkaur said:

i saw this comment by a supposed "kaur" a so called sikh woman on sikh youth birmingham facebook page and was appalled by her attitude.

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What is maddeningly difficult for me to understand is this:

You think that your Sikh father/brother/whatever is too strict and is a "closed-minded backward twat" ... so you then "wanna do a ting with muslim men" ??!

Oh, yeah, right, they're not closed-minded backward twats /sarc.

You're upset at your father (or mother) for merely using words to tell you off, and so you then fall into the arms of someone whose religion actually encourages them to beat you? (Yeah, I realize some Sikhs beat their wives, I'm talking about the religion itself.) You think Sikhs and Sikhism are too strict, so you rush headlong into the embrace of someone whose religion specifies every little thing you do from waking up to going to sleep, and if you leave the religion, the punishment is death??

Can someone please explain this for me?  I think my head is going to explode with the contradictions.

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9 hours ago, superkaur said:

Wasnt she the one that was on their page missing from home a few months ago?

The samra surname rings a bell for some reason. I noticed there was a samra girl on facebook who had married a muslim paki guy and had 2 kids with him. So there is serious issues going with the samra and sanghera surnamed families in the UK. These 2 surnames are producing girls that want to disgrace and shame their family and heritage by dating and running off with non-sikh guys. It all starts in the home when the home environment is polluted by parents you cant blame the fruit becoming spoiled and toxified.

So not suprised this 16yr old child was groomed, converted an radicalised by her muslim class friends and muslim guys.....seeing the kinda inaction sikh gurdwara committee's are doing in the uk and how laxed liberal Sikh families are with not teaching their kids to be strong in their faith and to convert others to sikhi instead.

 

So basically what you saying is everyone who has those 2 surname is a disgrace to their families and have no hope?

Think before you write. Thats like mulsims saying every Sikh girl is easy to convert 

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8 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Even though she seems to have "Kaur" in her name, "Archer" doesn't sound like any Subcontinental last name I heard of, nor does "Kim" have any Sikh relation towards it. Maybe it's a troll account.

these days sikhs use 'christian ' nicknames if not outright first names  Isher Kaur has a Natasha Kaur  and an Avani Kaur in her class, my Bhabhi is Kiranpal nickname Kim too ...

my guess is mum punjabi dad white or she's married to a white with both parents sikh

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2 minutes ago, DailyMail said:

Unless anyone has been living in the Gobi desert over the last 20 odd years, it is clearly apparent that jatts are disproportionately represented in either grooming or running away with Muslim men - and this is despite  accounting for confounding factors such as "most Sikhs are jatt". 

There other notable factor which we can't ignore is that the victims are nearly always from the Midlands. Which, for those of you who aren't aware, is notorious for having heavy drinking jatts (compared with London or elsewhere). The jatts openly boast about their drinking exploits, in songs or on social media. Heck, I still remember when they called into a discussion programme on Nihal's show on the BBC Asian Network, who was discussing alcohol abuse in the "panjabi" community: "we jatts have enzymes which metabolise alcohol more efficiently than other Asian races"!!!

There are clearly a lack of strong male role models with strong Sikhi-inspired values in jatt families. They're now paying a heavy price for substituting Sikhi for Punjabi culture, which, even to this day, they haven't realised. 

I visit the Midlands often because I have extended family living there. There is literally a pub on every corner, mostly owned and run by Punjabi's and they see it as a "badge of honour" that they spend all their time drinking. 

This is a hangover from the "black country" industrial age, when drinking was seen as a way of socialising in the early days of immigration (no other past times) and as a way of "rehydrating the body" after working in furnaces.

However, that can not explain why 2nd and 3rd or 4th generation Midlands Sikhs drink themselves to cirrhosis and a disproportionate number of Sikh females (who identify themselves as jatt) vulnerable to exploitation.

Exactly. A utter discrace to real Sikhs

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But in a way Im glad these jatt girls dont use Kaur in their last name but use their caste names mostly.

It stops the great name that is Kaur from being tarnished while exposing the jatts for what they are. 

 

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This all being said: This b1tch is young as hell. I've worked with this age group and I'm telling you, they can be dumb as hell. 

I don't even think this 1diot knows what she was doing in all seriousness. She's probably got special needs and her family background isn't exactly giving her the best start. 

I remember when those 16 year old hijabans run off to Syria from East London. A lot of people were very concerned and sympathetic about them. Making them out to be victims and too young to grasp the significance of their actions. But this exSikh girl gets none of that.

This Sandeep girl was not born a islamist terrorist. She's been duped and it speaks volumes that she comes from a Sikh background. Her thinking is not her own essentially. This daft c**t is a victim here too. She's obviously very easy to manipulate with a highly susceptible, weak mind. I don't think we should be throwing her under the bus. 

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8 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

This all being said: This b1tch is young as hell. I've worked with this age group and I'm telling you, they can be dumb as hell. 

I don't even think this 1diot knows what she was doing in all seriousness. She's probably got special needs and her family background isn't exactly giving her the best start. 

I remember when those 16 year old hijabans run off to Syria from East London. A lot of people were very concerned and sympathetic about them. Making them out to be victims and too young to grasp the significance of their actions. But this exSikh girl gets none of that.

This Sandeep girl was not born a islamist terrorist. She's been duped and it speaks volumes that she comes from a Sikh background. Her thinking is not her own essentially. This daft c**t is a victim here too. She's obviously very easy to manipulate with a highly susceptible, weak mind. I don't think we should be throwing her under the bus. 

agree with forgiving mindset if not the language , musleh love getting into our kids heads and it starts from primary school age so protect your kids by teaching about sikhi from the get go.

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7 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

agree with forgiving mindset if not the language , musleh love getting into our kids heads and it starts from primary school age so protect your kids by teaching about sikhi from the get go.

It's not even as simple as that. Genetic variance in intelligence and confidence means that some kids seem more susceptible and influential to outside influence than others. You can try and teach them but some still have that need to belong and whatnot that leads to them getting mixed up with insidious people/groups.

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Just now, dallysingh101 said:

It's not even as simple as that. Genetic variance in intelligence and confidence means that some kids seem more susceptible and influential to outside influence than others. You can try and teach them but some still have that need to belong and whatnot that leads to them getting mixed up with insidious people/groups.

look our kids are generally not treated like animals , kept in a state of constant fear, beaten  unlike the musleh kids so their soft open (vulnerable) natures are still intact and this is like blood in the water to musleh kids . They will isolate and pick holes in the kids confidence, about looks, nature ,speech, thinking then come in with the hellfire arguments . Isher Kaur is countering this and I've been in there prewarning and she has confirmed to me she hates their attitudes.

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20 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

This all being said: This b1tch is young as hell. I've worked with this age group and I'm telling you, they can be dumb as hell. 

I don't even think this 1diot knows what she was doing in all seriousness. She's probably got special needs and her family background isn't exactly giving her the best start. 

I remember when those 16 year old hijabans run off to Syria from East London. A lot of people were very concerned and sympathetic about them. Making them out to be victims and too young to grasp the significance of their actions. But this exSikh girl gets none of that.

This Sandeep girl was not born a islamist terrorist. She's been duped and it speaks volumes that she comes from a Sikh background. Her thinking is not her own essentially. This daft c**t is a victim here too. She's obviously very easy to manipulate with a highly susceptible, weak mind. I don't think we should be throwing her under the bus. 

We shouldn't be sympathizing with these groups, people who are causing harm to others are a threat by themselves. No sympathy for those born into Islam either. She'd probably kill some Sikhs as well, to her anyone not following her pedophilia prophet Muhammad, should be treated terribly.

According to the Quran: (9:5) And when the forbidden months have passed, kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. 

 

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23 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Who cares. We dont need scum like this in our faith. 

Theres plenty more like this girl. Let them go to syria. We do not care for them. 

 

 

That's not your decision to make.

 

23 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Lets not bother. Weak people do not belong in the faith. She chose her path now lie in it. Dont complain after the you was lured or forced. 

 

 

Forced? So Guru Gobind Singh Ji was wrong to take back the Sikh who had been forced to convert to islam?

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