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Lucid dreaming is an experience where you are aware that you're dreaming. So this means that you have full control of your dream at that moment. At this point, the physical body is completely asleep and can also be in the state of sleep paralysis.  Therfore, you cannot move in the real world.

By my own experience, you are able to do anything you desire in the dream world. Anything is possible, so we can warp reality and change our surrounding at will. 

My question is: Can we do naam simran in this state? Can i create a situation where i am sitting in sangat japping gurmantar? 

If so, i can be concious and aware whilst doing this all night until my physical body wakes up. 

Also, in the lucid dream world there is no physical body, meaning that we are within a state of mind. So the Gyan Indria are completely closed and will not interfere in what we are doing. Does this mean i am able to open dasam duaar easier at this point if i clear mind mind and do simran with 100% focus?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, parmjit10 said:

You curious on drugs then?

Calm down man. I'm just asking a question.

All i wanted to know was if it is possible or not cuz ive seen videos of people talking about lucid dreaming being a realistic experience or something.

So by your knowledge, this is all complete stupidity and I am a person who is intoxicated with some type of drug by bringing this question up...

Ok.

 

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8 minutes ago, parmjit10 said:

You curious on drugs then?

Congrats you've just won

 

 

 

Nothing! 

Man, get a life.

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29 minutes ago, parmjit10 said:

I don't mean medical drug but nasha from bakti drug dumb. Nasha from this drug stops you from lucrid dreaming causing you not to sleep. You are really dumb.

Ok...

I wish you a great happy life ☺

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On 7/24/2017 at 11:02 PM, OneBeing said:

Lucid dreaming is an experience where you are aware that you're dreaming.

 

On 7/24/2017 at 11:02 PM, OneBeing said:

My question is: Can we do naam simran in this state?

 

Absolutely, and Gurbani gives testimony to this. First of all, we're called to do simran day and night:

ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਦਿਨੁ ਰਾਤਿ ॥

Forever and ever, remember Him, day and night,

ਰਾਮਲਕੀ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੯) ੭:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੯੭੦ ਪੰ. ੧੫ 
 

 

ਊਠਤ ਬੈਠਤ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ॥

While standing up and sitting down, with every breath and morsel of food.

ਰਾਮਲਕੀ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੯) ੭:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੯੭੧ ਪੰ. ੧੬ 
 

Just in case that wasn't clear, we're called to do simran (remembrance) 24 hours a day:

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਿਮਰਹੁ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ॥੩॥

Twenty-four hours a day, O mortal, meditate on God. ||3||

ਗਉੜੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੨੮) ੩:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੯੧ ਪੰ. ੧੪ 
 

Finally, the phenomenon of simran while dreaming is referenced specifically by Kabeer ji:

 

ਕਬੀਰ ਸੁਪਨੈ ਹੂ ਬਰੜਾਇ ਕੈ ਜਿਹ ਮੁਖਿ ਨਿਕਸੈ ਰਾਮੁ ॥

Kabeer, if someone utters the Name of the Lord even in dreams,

ਸਲੋਕ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੬੩):੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੩੬੭ ਪੰ. ੧੫ 

 

ਤਾ ਕੇ ਪਗ ਕੀ ਪਾਨਹੀ ਮੇਰੇ ਤਨ ਕੋ ਚਾਮੁ ॥੬੩॥

I would make my skin into shoes for his feet. ||63||

ਸਲੋਕ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੬੩):੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੩੬੭ ਪੰ. ੧੬ 
 

On 7/24/2017 at 11:02 PM, OneBeing said:

the Gyan Indria are completely closed and will not interfere in what we are doing. Does this mean i am able to open dasam duaar easier at this point if i clear mind mind and do simran with 100% focus?

It sounds like you already know the answer. Anyway, I would say, sure:

ਮੂੰਦਿ ਲੀਏ ਦਰਵਾਜੇ ॥

I have now closed off the doors,

ਸੋਰਠਿ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੧੦) ੧:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੬੫੬ ਪੰ. ੧੧ 
 

 

ਬਾਜੀਅਲੇ ਅਨਹਦ ਬਾਜੇ ॥੧॥

And the unstruck celestial sound current resounds. ||1||

ਸੋਰਠਿ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੧੦) ੧:੪ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੬੫੬ ਪੰ. ੧੧ 
 

The "doors" refers the 9 portals of the human body, through which we interact with the world (2 eyes, 2 ears, 2 nostrils, 1 mouth, 1 waste organ, 1 genital). The tenth door is the Dasam Duar, the gate toward God.

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I used to have lucid dreams when I was much younger. On two occasions that I was "aware" that I was lucid dreaming, I did Japji Sahib paath and then returned to  normal sleep. In every lucid dream I had, I was unable to control how long it lasted. 

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7 hours ago, BhForce said:

 

 

Absolutely, and Gurbani gives testimony to this. First of all, we're called to do simran day and night:

ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਦਿਨੁ ਰਾਤਿ ॥

Forever and ever, remember Him, day and night,

ਰਾਮਲਕੀ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੯) ੭:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੯੭੦ ਪੰ. ੧੫ 
 

 

ਊਠਤ ਬੈਠਤ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ॥

While standing up and sitting down, with every breath and morsel of food.

ਰਾਮਲਕੀ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੯) ੭:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੯੭੧ ਪੰ. ੧੬ 
 

Just in case that wasn't clear, we're called to do simran (remembrance) 24 hours a day:

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਿਮਰਹੁ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ॥੩॥

Twenty-four hours a day, O mortal, meditate on God. ||3||

ਗਉੜੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੨੮) ੩:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੯੧ ਪੰ. ੧੪ 
 

Finally, the phenomenon of simran while dreaming is referenced specifically by Kabeer ji:

 

ਕਬੀਰ ਸੁਪਨੈ ਹੂ ਬਰੜਾਇ ਕੈ ਜਿਹ ਮੁਖਿ ਨਿਕਸੈ ਰਾਮੁ ॥

Kabeer, if someone utters the Name of the Lord even in dreams,

ਸਲੋਕ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੬੩):੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੩੬੭ ਪੰ. ੧੫ 

 

ਤਾ ਕੇ ਪਗ ਕੀ ਪਾਨਹੀ ਮੇਰੇ ਤਨ ਕੋ ਚਾਮੁ ॥੬੩॥

I would make my skin into shoes for his feet. ||63||

ਸਲੋਕ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੬੩):੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੩੬੭ ਪੰ. ੧੬ 
 

It sounds like you already know the answer. Anyway, I would say, sure:

ਮੂੰਦਿ ਲੀਏ ਦਰਵਾਜੇ ॥

I have now closed off the doors,

ਸੋਰਠਿ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੧੦) ੧:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੬੫੬ ਪੰ. ੧੧ 
 

 

ਬਾਜੀਅਲੇ ਅਨਹਦ ਬਾਜੇ ॥੧॥

And the unstruck celestial sound current resounds. ||1||

ਸੋਰਠਿ (ਭ. ਕਬੀਰ) (੧੦) ੧:੪ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੬੫੬ ਪੰ. ੧੧ 
 

The "doors" refers the 9 portals of the human body, through which we interact with the world (2 eyes, 2 ears, 2 nostrils, 1 mouth, 1 waste organ, 1 genital). The tenth door is the Dasam Duar, the gate toward God.

Nice! 

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9 hours ago, Wicked Warrior said:

I used to have lucid dreams when I was much younger. On two occasions that I was "aware" that I was lucid dreaming, I did Japji Sahib paath and then returned to  normal sleep. In every lucid dream I had, I was unable to control how long it lasted. 

That's what Sikhism's all about, brother. "Missionaries" love to make fun of what they call parroting (tota-ruttan). But it's only through repetition that you can reach higher spiritual states.

As for dream-repetition, most Sikhs repeat Japji Sahib or Chaupai Sahib, because those are the most memorized and recited banis. It is said that Sant Gurbachan Singh ji Bhindrawale recited Guru Granth Sahib ji in his sleep.

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When we attain the spirit form, are we going to need to sleep? No 

Why not?

Because sleep is made to rest our physical body to which our soul is attached to at the moment. 

When we are asleep our soul is still busy doing other things. 

Our soul's activity is sometimes connected to our body. As we attain a more awakened state through meditation we will become more aware of these activities which our soul is engaging in. When we are asleep our soul travels and goes to the spirit world, from where it comes back refreshed and energized. 

Guru Nanak Dev Ji was physically asleep one day, however he was busy saving a drowning ship. The testimony to this was given by one of the servants who was sent to awaken Guru Ji by Mata Ji. She licked Guru Jis feet and immediately saw what Guru Ji was busy doing. However Guru Ji was not too pleased that she informed Mataji and Guru Ji called her mad which she became later. 

jagan te supna bhala

 

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9 minutes ago, sikhni777 said:

When we attain the spirit form, are we going to need to sleep? No 

Why not?

Because sleep is made to rest our physical body to which our soul is attached to at the moment. 

When we are asleep our soul is still busy doing other things. 

Our soul's activity is sometimes connected to our body. As we attain a more awakened state through meditation we will become more aware of these activities which our soul is engaging in. When we are asleep our soul travels and goes to the spirit world, from where it comes back refreshed and energized. 

Guru Nanak Dev Ji was physically asleep one day, however he was busy saving a drowning ship. The testimony to this was given by one of the servants who was sent to awaken Guru Ji by Mata Ji. She licked Guru Jis feet and immediately saw what Guru Ji was busy doing. However Guru Ji was not too pleased that she informed Mataji and Guru Ji called her mad which she became later. 

jagan te supna bhala

 

Ok, i understand.

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