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6 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

I think he brought jugraj Singh name in to it because it was directly relevant 

You obviously didn't read properly what he wrote about his illness. 

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7 hours ago, sitokaur said:

my opinion on discussing Sikhi to non sikhs is IT IS VERY DANGEROUS JI, because even sikhs who have not received Vahiguroo's kirpa, sees pure hearted amritdharis as hypocrite, trouble, extremists ji.

Yep that's just your opinion. There's  Non Sikhs that respect Sikhs and why should parchar stop because of the narrowminded ones. If they are seeing Sikhs as you are stating, then parchar is the way to inform them of their one sided views of what and who Sikhs are. Your statement's like saying, that all brown colour people are seen as that by those people. 

What Bhai Jagraj Singh did was way better than those complaining about it could do. He made awareness about Sikhi, whereas others hide it and don't have the courage to do anything and that's not troublemaking. That's making the world known about Sikhs, and the injustice against us also. Why should the truth be hidden? We've nothing to be ashamed of, our Gurus made lots of sacrifices for humanity and people should know about that. 

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9 hours ago, sitokaur said:

my opinion on discussing Sikhi to non sikhs is IT IS VERY DANGEROUS JI, because even sikhs who have not received Vahiguroo's kirpa, sees pure hearted amritdharis as hypocrite, trouble, extremists ji.

Which is worse failing at something, (teaching people Sikhi), or never trying? Many Sikhs can only imagine the courage or the intelligence and open-mindedness like Jugraj Singh had. Amritdharis or Non-Amritdharis, Sikhs or Non-Sikhs, he was someone who could teach to the audience he was speaking to, which is more effective than some Gurdwara Pracharks talking about stuff not in the language of the common man, (I'm not talking about Punjabi or English, but language as in relatable topics). That's what separate great Pracharks from some good Pracharks, (both have best interests in Sangat, but one is better).

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9 hours ago, sitokaur said:

my opinion on discussing Sikhi to non sikhs is IT IS VERY DANGEROUS JI,

Penji, what is dangerous, is when other faiths do their parchar and try to convert people and pakhandis that sway people into the wrong direction. What's dangerous is when our youth and adults get overwhelmed by others ideas, that they leave Sikhi and that ruins families and their lives, and then when the damage is done, sometimes it's too late to mend or those that come back to Sikhi and have the regret that they lost so many years and say, "if only somebody had helped", "if only there was more awareness and education of it, then I would never have swayed away". 

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Vahiguroo Jio kirpa bhul chuk muaf_/\_, PRANAM ALWAYS TO BRAVE BASICS OF SIKHI LEADER BHAI JIO ATEY TEAM_/\_

But I am totally for TEACHING GURMUKHI, KEERTAN, AND THEN discussing Sikhi to ONLY TO OUR KAUM, YOUTH, SENIORS, AND ESPECIALLY ALL OF PUNJAB...SO OUR ENTIRE KAUM BECOME KHALSA PANTH, and then, KHALSA ACTIONS, WORDS, PERSONALITY, ET AL AS IN GURU PITA MAHARAJ GURU NANAK  DEV JIO ATTRACTED ALL LIKE A MAGNET TO HIMSELF, TO SIKHI...AS GURBANI, BHAI VIR SINGH JIO, ETC SIKH LITERATURE HAS CONVEYED Jio_/\_, without any effort or need to reach out to others as today's Sikh preachers.

Paviterr Charna Sikh Sangat hath jorr benti bhul chuk muaf, i am just a toree matt papee murakh, so my opinion is just as koor as i am_/\_

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12 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Your right.. I was being flippant and cynical so satire felt like the best way forward 

Why were you feeling that way?

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1 hour ago, sitokaur said:

Vahiguroo Jio kirpa bhul chuk muaf_/\_, PRANAM ALWAYS TO BRAVE BASICS OF SIKHI LEADER BHAI JIO ATEY TEAM_/\_

But I am totally for TEACHING GURMUKHI, KEERTAN, AND THEN discussing Sikhi to ONLY TO OUR KAUM, YOUTH, SENIORS, AND ESPECIALLY ALL OF PUNJAB...SO OUR ENTIRE KAUM BECOME KHALSA PANTH, and then, KHALSA ACTIONS, WORDS, PERSONALITY, ET AL AS IN GURU PITA MAHARAJ GURU NANAK  DEV JIO ATTRACTED ALL LIKE A MAGNET TO HIMSELF, TO SIKHI...AS GURBANI, BHAI VIR SINGH JIO, ETC SIKH LITERATURE HAS CONVEYED Jio_/\_, without any effort or need to reach out to others as today's Sikh preachers.

Paviterr Charna Sikh Sangat hath jorr benti bhul chuk muaf, i am just a toree matt papee murakh, so my opinion is just as koor as i am_/\_

Penji you have nothing to be sorry about, it's your opinion. The thing is if you try to see it from a different point of view. If Sikhs don't do parchar to others than our own kaum, then how will people know about Sikhi. Sikhi doesn't just cover Sikh youth. It gives the message out for the whole world of humanity and God. Guru Nanak Dev ji didn't choose people from certain backgrounds or castes to get the message across. 

Nobody is forced to convert or any ideas enforced upon anybody. It's about getting the awareness across, because without it, Sikhs will be looked upon as another religion, just because of the colour of somebody's skin. It's important to let people know, we do not support extremism or tolerate any sort of activities. This is one of the reasons of parchar in different languages. If there is no parchar, then how will the world know about Sikhi? 

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11 hours ago, simran345 said:

Penji, what is dangerous, is when other faiths do their parchar and try to convert people and pakhandis that sway people into the wrong direction. What's dangerous is when our youth and adults get overwhelmed by others ideas, that they leave Sikhi and that ruins families and their lives, and then when the damage is done, sometimes it's too late to mend or those that come back to Sikhi and have the regret that they lost so many years and say, "if only somebody had helped", "if only there was more awareness and education of it, then I would never have swayed away". 

The five people that have laughed at this post, What's so funny about it? If you've got something to say, write it in a post, instead of making a joke out of people that lose their way from Sikhi. Instead of laughing at why people sway away from Sikhi, maybe you should be laughing at yourselves and see how you can contribute towards helping the panth to stop youth swaying away from Sikhi. ? to you too. 

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