monatosingh

Nitnem?

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WJKK WJKF.

We all know that nitnem usually starts at 2am. Some people start earlier which is totally fine.

Whenever I go to a special event at the gurdwara that lasts all night and upto morning, why done amritdhari's not do their nitnem at that time? If it was to end at like 7am (which is 2-3 hours past the deadline for nitnem) aren't they missing their nitnem?
 

I notice the same at normal gurdwara's. If I come really early and end up leaving really really late the amritdhari's don't do their nitnem?

 

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Nitnem is simran. When they are at the program they are still doing simran so it gets counted in. They may decide to do double nitnem path the next day, however it is a personal choice.

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3 hours ago, monatosingh said:

WJKK WJKF.

We all know that nitnem usually starts at 2am. Some people start earlier which is totally fine.

Whenever I go to a special event at the gurdwara that lasts all night and upto morning, why done amritdhari's not do their nitnem at that time? If it was to end at like 7am (which is 2-3 hours past the deadline for nitnem) aren't they missing their nitnem?
 

I notice the same at normal gurdwara's. If I come really early and end up leaving really really late the amritdhari's don't do their nitnem?

 

Amritvela starts at 2 am, or 3 am depending on what time the sun rises. Cuz amritvela is supposed to start 3 hours before sunrise. So we are supposed to do simran until the sun rises and at sun rise we r supppsed to the 5 bania. So yeah, it makes sense to do nitnem at 7 am after all night program. But some ppl like me are tok sleepy. Other ppl r smat, they will leave the program a few hours early so they can finish nitnem.  Gurmat Bibek youtube channel has a video on this called why rainsabai or something similar

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AH! Nitnem is before sunrise BUT! Let's see where this tradition started. INDIA! And where do Sikhs like me do Nitnem? UK! Has anyone seen sunrise in UK around 6.15am in cold season?? In December India sunrise is at 5.30am onwards and can be 4am! For summer... Sooraj da chadi gia, sajno! Following the sun's direction should be focused more on time.

 

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5 hours ago, monatosingh said:

WJKK WJKF.

We all know that nitnem usually starts at 2am. Some people start earlier which is totally fine.

Whenever I go to a special event at the gurdwara that lasts all night and upto morning, why done amritdhari's not do their nitnem at that time? If it was to end at like 7am (which is 2-3 hours past the deadline for nitnem) aren't they missing their nitnem?
 

I notice the same at normal gurdwara's. If I come really early and end up leaving really really late the amritdhari's don't do their nitnem?

 

Amrit vela sach nao vidaayee vichaar can be anytime when you remember Waheguru.

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Alright so people say they start it when they are at home at 3AM, so what happens to rehraas and kirtan sohila?

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On 23/07/2017 at 2:59 PM, Not2Cool2Argue said:

Gurmat Bibek youtube channel has a video on this called why rainsabai or something similar

 

 

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1 hour ago, simran345 said:

 

 

Oh no I won't understand most of it my punjabi is literally at a beginner level.

 

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49 minutes ago, monatosingh said:

Oh no I won't understand most of it my punjabi is literally at a beginner level.

 

There's English subtitles, understanding it won't be a problem. 

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On 7/23/2017 at 5:31 PM, sikhni777 said:

Nitnem is simran. When they are at the program they are still doing simran so it gets counted in. They may decide to do double nitnem path the next day, however it is a personal choice.

Just for the original poster: I do not believe Nitnem is a personal choice, even if you're doing or listening to some other path or keertan. You should complete your minimum Nitnem banis (5 banis) when you can (such as when you get home). You can definitely do 1 or even 2 just on the way home.

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I asked one of my older brother's friends who is amritdhari and he gave me the answer:

Before going to the rainsbhai (or actually anywhere like work, etc) do rehraas before then. 

Kirtan sohila is only meant to be done before you sleep. So if you come back at 5AM, do your nitnem and then do kirtan sohila after so you can go to sleep.

 

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