Amrit sanchar

[Guest Jacfsing2]

4 minutes ago, BhForce said:

It would be appreciated if you could either provide a written reference from any of Bhai Randhir Singh ji's book or withdraw your comment. I say this because a lot of people read this website, and a good number of them loosely associate with or respect AKJ, and if your comment is allowed to stand, they may come under the mistaken impression that there was something wrong with Guru Gobind Singh ji's maryada, and Bhai Randhir Singh ji came and fixed it.

I don't know if you are looking for whether Akjs have Female Punj Pyare,(which they do), or actual writing of Bhai Randhir Singh which includes this? I also never claimed that the Akj Maryada or any other Maryada was the true unedited Maryada,

[BhForce]

Just now, Jacfsing2 said:

I don't know if you are looking for whether Akjs have Female Punj Pyare,(which they do), or actual writing of Bhai Randhir Singh which includes this? I also never claimed that the Akj Maryada or any other Maryada was the true unedited Maryada,

Well, I was asking about the actual writing of Bhai Randhir Singh ji. If you have such a reference, please provide it, otherwise please withdraw your statement.

If you have any hearsay (I realize it wouldn't be written documentation) about females in Panj Pyare, and in which countries or cities, and who you heard that from, that would also be appreciated. Thanks.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

15 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Well, I was asking about the actual writing of Bhai Randhir Singh ji. If you have such a reference, please provide it, otherwise please withdraw your statement.

If you have any hearsay (I realize it wouldn't be written documentation) about females in Panj Pyare, and in which countries or cities, and who you heard that from, that would also be appreciated. Thanks.

Since you are one of the few reasonable and respectful people on this site, I decided to edit that part out till I get further evidence from Bhai Randhir Singh's own works. (Not some stuff people might write either one way or another).

On 7/21/2017 at 10:36 AM, Jacfsing2 said:

*As well as the issue of Raag mala, (which modern AKJs don't accept). http://www.damdamitaksaal.org/history/leaders/46-sant-giani-gurbachan-singh-ji-khalsa-bhindranwale/84-the-last-time-sant-giani-gurbachan-singh-and-bhai-sahib-bhai-randir-singh-met (Will edit when further evidence and real sources are found).

 

17 minutes ago, BhForce said:

If you have any hearsay (I realize it wouldn't be written documentation) about females in Panj Pyare, and in which countries or cities, and who you heard that from, that would also be appreciated. Thanks.

I haven't been to an Amrit Sanchar other than my own, where there were only Singhs as Punj Pyare. But from word that goes on it seems to be a big debate, especially with not only AKJs but 3HOs.

[BhForce]

36 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Since you are one of the few reasonable and respectful people on this site, I decided to edit that part out till I get further evidence from Bhai Randhir Singh's own works. (Not some stuff people might write either one way or another).

Thanks, bro. I read one of his tracts called, maybe Singhan da Panth Nirala, where he argued his position from older works, and did not say "Randhir Singh said so, therefore you have to do this.", so I highly doubt that he would be so egotistical to overturn Guru Gobind Singh ji's maryada.

39 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I haven't been to an Amrit Sanchar other than my own, where there were only Singhs as Punj Pyare. But from word that goes on it seems to be a big debate, especially with not only AKJs but 3HOs.

I think that there may be a handful of Internet AKJs (far from all) who may have argued the point of female Panj Piyare theoretically, but not done so in actuality. Which would be sort of the same as the SGPC (written into the SRM, but not actually done at SGPC gurdwaras).