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Bhai Jagraj Singh has passed away.

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@jaspindyj these very urgent and desperate causes. I would like to send my daswandh to them but but how can you trust them?

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I cannot believe that person becomes jealous and hate when folks are donating and helping one family. 270k is peanuts as comparing to what other dharams are doing. I simply don't get it. Difference of socio-Sikh culture between me and jaspindyj. 

Seriously who compares one cause with another. All are ok but don't throw dirt and whine like trump. GOSH!

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On 12/08/2017 at 7:28 PM, jaspindjy said:

How much money do you want everyone to be donating to reach $270,000 sum, because there are also the channels that also asking for donations to do prachaar which is to reach many million peoples.  Mostly people don't normally ask for money from sangat when someone dies like raagi died in the gurdwara stage. His family didn't ask for money from others they too had three little children . His wife is asking for us to give her the money her parents and her inlaws will help her in these circumstances. I don't know why is she like a beggar asking us to pay we don't have more money. Can you tell everyone here why she is asking for money from everyone? There are many poor needy peoples all over the world, in punjab many poor peoples with no food or clothes also the gurdwara near them don't help them they turn to jesus for desperation. In England they have children benefits aslo  free schools free medical health too that's why no one dies of hunger it is wrong to ask for money from others if the government look after them if they poor without employment. She can too also work as there many single parents with children they work to feed them children also pay for everything for them. I don't feel good if people beg others to give money to them they must get job but not ask sikhs hard working ordinary people also it is not sikhi to beg. She can also find some employment like everybody else even if she now single parent . When he leave his first wife did the first wife ask for money from the sangat for her kid. What amount she had asked from the sangat? No one must ask for money it is wrong. She can find employment like everybody she must not ask for charity. There many sikhs womens who become widowed and no one gives them any money to their children or anything. It is her being Russian taking advantage or exploiting poor sikh sangat people. In Russia no one collect money if any sikhs womens or mens in trouble. They don't feel proud of sikhs peoples there because they are from India. There also many peoples sikhs dying in punjab because they have no money. Some girls don't marry because they don't have much money for marriages. Their fathers can't find employment because they have problems.

This guy is a troll or completely illiterate close minded prat.

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On 12/08/2017 at 10:03 PM, Jacfsing2 said:

If you don't want to give money you don't have to. Our Raagis not getting the pay they deserve should be a slap to our faces, not something to be worn as a badge of honor. Daler Mehndi said himself that he left the Kirtan work because the pay was not livable. Us not helping people in Punjab is another slap to our faces as well.

We should only help raagis who do gurmat sangeet in Raag. Those who play harmonium we should not even give them anything because giving money promotes this non gurmat instrument. Instead we should pay to open academies which can teach the raagis to play the correct instruments and use correct raags. Otherwsie, by paying harmonium players, we are only shooting ourselves in the foot.

 

If you watch one of Bhai Jagraj Singh's videos, he mentions that gurdwaras get cheap sewadaars that can do everything, and are just taught basic harmonium playing, I guess having a proper raagi would hurt the business aspect of running a gurdwara!!! ( I think it was one of the WhyGuru course videos about keertan)

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@jaspindjy Good points, well done! I always donate my daswandh to international and national charities. 

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Wheguru Wheguru je ka Khalsa Wheguru je ke Fateh. I hope the basics of Sikhi work continues to the same level of Bahi Sahibs standard which is simplifying the message. 

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