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This is a great idea by the Gurdwara.  Hope it carrys on and isn't just a one off session.  They should do one for adults too.

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2 hours ago, simran345 said:

This is a great idea by the Gurdwara.  Hope it carrys on and isn't just a one off session.  They should do one for adults too.

Bheinji the poster says "Families & Children" you should mail or call to suggest the same for Adults.

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