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1 hour ago, Akalifauj said:

Ranjit singh must stop his lazy parchar and attain real Gurmat knowledge.  When he has Gurmat gyan, he can come back and teach from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.  

 

Lazy? Yeah 3 diwans a day is that lazy.

Gurmat knowledge according to what you believe is gurmat? They already do gurmat gyan according to gurbani and what maharaj teach us through gurbani. 

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He impersonated guru gobind singh maharaj by wearing a kalgi on his head and having people matha tek to him ( dhadrianwale). 

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I agree, wearing the kalgi and allowing people to matha tek was a huge mistake. This is what I was trying to explain earlier, we hype things too much as the sangat.

On that note Dhumma is no better, who is he to throw his weight around and order the killing of fellow SIKH BROTHERS. You don't see Bhai Guriqbal Singh behaving like that?

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1 hour ago, singhunit said:

I agree, wearing the kalgi and allowing people to matha tek was a huge mistake. This is what I was trying to explain earlier, we hype things too much as the sangat.

On that note Dhumma is no better, who is he to throw his weight around and order the killing of fellow SIKH BROTHERS. You don't see Bhai Guriqbal Singh behaving like that?

There was nothing wrong in that. Two people gave two different khandas and dhadrianwale did not want to dishearten them by not wearink a khanda. They are above one another therefore seem lile a kalgi. It was not rees of maharaj.

Secondly nothing is wrong in matha tek. Some gursikhs bow down to each other. Forget bowing down, Maharaj says 'meri khaloho moajre gursikh handande'. Make my skin into the shoes of those gursikhs!! It is about respect. Yes the sharda we have should be 'he is a gursikh' not 'he is god'. Some kids matha tek to parents. They do not see the mum and dad as god but it is a form of respect. Do we not take asheervaad from our mums? It is not wrong. However Dhumma did this is maharajs hajoori which IS wrong. That is rees of kalgidhar sache patshah.

Thirdly, many many years ago dhadrianwale have stopped people trying to matha tek them because some of us have little brains and cannot gather big concepts.

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6 hours ago, Guest Singh said:

He impersonated guru gobind singh maharaj by wearing a kalgi on his head and having people matha tek to him ( dhadrianwale). 

You are mistaken by sirsa wala

He also made his form of 'amrit' 

Dhumma approved it also.

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On 03/08/2017 at 7:48 AM, singhunit said:

 

On that note Dhumma is no better, who is he to throw his weight around and order the killing of fellow SIKH BROTHERS. You don't see Bhai Guriqbal Singh behaving like that?

 

What sikh brothers has Harnam Singh ordered to be killed?

 

On 03/08/2017 at 2:53 AM, JS79 said:

Lazy? Yeah 3 diwans a day is that lazy.

Gurmat knowledge according to what you believe is gurmat? They already do gurmat gyan according to gurbani and what maharaj teach us through gurbani. 

 

Doing a/3 diwan(s) is not exercise for someone. For an orator its an easy job.

 

On 03/08/2017 at 9:19 AM, JS79 said:

You are mistaken by sirsa wala

He also made his form of 'amrit' 

Dhumma approved it also.

 

God help me? How many more lies are you going to post here?

 

Whilst we are on the subject lets talk about darshan rogi and his form of "amrit".

 

Which missionary has opposed this rogi ? "Professor" Sarbjit singh "Khalsa"?   dhapali?

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Singhunit is referring to SHAHEED BHUPINDER SINGH who you probably call a missionary therefore approve the killing.

 

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3 hours ago, chatanga said:

Doing a/3 diwan(s) is not exercise for someone. For an orator its an easy job.

To be fair, I think we should acknowledge that doing 3 divans a day (including travel) is quite taxing. And I praised him for doing so when I thought that, on balance, he was doing good by bringing people into and inspiring people about Sikhism.

3 hours ago, chatanga said:

Whilst we are on the subject lets talk about darshan rogi and his form of "amrit".

Excellent point. If some Sikhs are ready to kill the Sirsa chief (and even Sirsa followers) for creating a separate "amrit", then why would the same logic not apply to missionaries who have created a new "amrit"? Understand that I am not calling for violence against missionaries, just as I am on another thread saying that we should not be violent toward non-violent Sirsa-followers, so I am consistent in that regard.

But, for Sikhs (esp. missionaries) who are out for the Sirsa chief's blood, why does the same logic not apply to Ragi Darshan "Singh" (who created a new "panth" after Guru Gobind Singh ji's Khalsa Panth of 1699) and Giani Kuldeep "Singh" of the Virginia gurdwara that created a new form of "amrit" separate from Guru Gobind Singh ji's?

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1 hour ago, BhForce said:

To be fair, I think we should acknowledge that doing 3 divans a day (including travel) is quite taxing. And I praised him for doing so when I thought that, on balance, he was doing good by bringing people into and inspiring people about Sikhism.

Excellent point. If some Sikhs are ready to kill the Sirsa chief (and even Sirsa followers) for creating a separate "amrit", then why would the same logic not apply to missionaries who have created a new "amrit"? Understand that I am not calling for violence against missionaries, just as I am on another thread saying that we should not be violent toward non-violent Sirsa-followers, so I am consistent in that regard.

But, for Sikhs (esp. missionaries) who are out for the Sirsa chief's blood, why does the same logic not apply to Ragi Darshan "Singh" (who created a new "panth" after Guru Gobind Singh ji's Khalsa Panth of 1699) and Giani Kuldeep "Singh" of the Virginia gurdwara that created a new form of "amrit" separate from Guru Gobind Singh ji's?

What are you a murderer? You are asking them to kill people for your sadistic satisfaction. You are nothing but a vampire or a coward hiding in a closet waiting to come out

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22 hours ago, Guest phittey munh terrei said:

What are you a murderer? You are asking them to kill people for your sadistic satisfaction. You are nothing but a vampire or a coward hiding in a closet waiting to come out

:hairan: Did you miss this sentence in  my comment?

On 8/5/2017 at 4:37 AM, BhForce said:

Understand that I am not calling for violence against missionaries, just as I am on another thread saying that we should not be violent toward non-violent Sirsa-followers, so I am consistent in that regard.

I'm calling for non-violent responses to both the Sirsa-followers (many/most of whom are misguided Sikhs) and to the missionaries (misguided fellow Sikhs).

Here's some more explanation: There are many Sikhs (both on this board and in real life) who are out for the blood of Sirsa-followers (not me, though). Some of them have missionary-type thinking, even liking Ragi Darshan Singh. Now what I'm saying is a simple point of logic: If making your own Amrit separate from 10th Guru is cause for killing you, then the Sirsa baba is liable to be killed. But then also, the same logic applies to Ragi Darshan Singh and Giani Kuldeep Singh of Virginia. Explain why it does not.

Again, I am not calling for violence against missionaries. (I am calling for non-violent responses.)

The logic also applies to non-violent responses: If making your own Amrit separate from 10th Guru is cause for boycotting you, then the Sirsa baba is liable to be socially-boycotted. And his supporters. The same logic applies to Ragi Darshan Singh and Giani Kuldeep Singh of Virginia. And their supporters. Explain why the logic does not apply.

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Missionaries definitely are not the ones out for peoples blood here. They're not very violent by the looks of things. They dont hold shabeels.

Just saying. 

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Missionaries definitely are not the ones out for peoples blood. They dont seem very violent by the looks of things. They dont hold shabeels.

Just saying.

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8 hours ago, JS79 said:

Missionaries definitely are not the ones out for peoples blood. They dont seem very violent by the looks of things. They dont hold shabeels.

Just saying.

I addressed both violent and non-violent responses to Sirsa.

You posted about the separate form of Amrit:

On 8/3/2017 at 1:49 PM, JS79 said:

You are mistaken by sirsa wala

He also made his form of 'amrit' 

Dhumma approved it also.

And I asked anybody who has missionary viewpoints who is against Sirsa baba for creating a different Amrit than the 10th Guru to explain why the same logic does not apply to Ragi Darshan "Singh" and Giani Kuldeep "Singh" of Virginia. So go ahead and do so.

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22 hours ago, BhForce said:

I addressed both violent and non-violent responses to Sirsa.

You posted about the separate form of Amrit:

And I asked anybody who has missionary viewpoints who is against Sirsa baba for creating a different Amrit than the 10th Guru to explain why the same logic does not apply to Ragi Darshan "Singh" and Giani Kuldeep "Singh" of Virginia. So go ahead and do so.

Darshan singh has been ex communicated. That is a fair punishment is it not.

My argument was in reg to innocent killings. The main uproar is that dhumma forgave sirsa yet took an innicent life. We havent forgiven darshan singh, sirsa or dhumma and nor will we. 

Taksal killed a panthic parcharak when there are bad ppl on the loose. Dhumma never opposed sirsa yet adamant to kill dhadrianwale.  Interesting. These things makes sangat question taksals real motive. Dhumma never opposed sirsa this much! 

We can continue to disown the pakhandis and panth gaddaars we dont have to kill to prevent them from preaching their stuff. We can prevent in simpler ways. 

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