Dhadrianwale exposed

[S1ngh]

[simran345]

I haven't seen their videos in ages, it's the background tune that's irritating, can't figure out what they are saying. Don't know what's going on nowadays, so can't say anything on it. 

[S1ngh]

3 minutes ago, simran345 said:

I haven't seen their videos in ages, it's the background tune that's irritating, can't figure out what they are saying. Don't know what's going on nowadays, so can't say anything on it. 

High echo sound setting. Typical Indian marriage party singer group style. All of their sound/videos are consistent as they bring their own musical instrument, high end recording devices. Commercialism rather than any spirituality. Kaachi bani. 

[simran345]

8 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

Commercialism rather than any spirituality.

Hanji this is what I felt. But it's the extras that put me off listening to them more often.  Had a quick look at their fb page, and no offence to anybody that does good parchar of Sikhi, but the themes for the parchars aren't bringing me in. Like guilt trips to the sangat. Once in a while is ok, but it's all the time now. There's doesn't seem to be any positive words for anybody. ?

[BhForce]

22 hours ago, Guest San Jose said:

Missionary Dhadrianwale trying to destroy Sikhi first in India + now in the States

 

"Ehna Di Problem Ki Hai"? | Sant Ranjit Singh Dhadrian Wale explains !! San Jose, CA | 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N5XrTz3d-8

 

This is basically what he said (a transcription of Dhadrianwale's video above). I'll reply later on below in another post:

Quote

 

Now the problem is, now, I don't sing the praises of their Babas, there's no other problem.
They want to have their Babas praised. Accept the thinking that we accept.

I say man creates his fate (lekh), they say God does. I say God does, man does too. 
I say Dharam Raj is inside, they say he's up there.
I say heaven and hell are here, they say up there.
I say a man who becomes bad is a bhoot (ghost), and becoming good becomes an angel (devta).
They say there are men, bhoots, and devtas. 
You're putting everything up there, and righteousness (dharam) has become extinct from our lives.
Everything's inside, Gurbani talks of everything inside.
Sheikh Farid talks of the present, today. Aaj milava Sheikh Farid. 
Talk about today, how you'll go today to heaven (swarag). 
This is a Brahminist thinking that people are crying in hell. Who heard the crying?
The body is burned here (in this world).
There are examples of these matters in Gurbani, but Guru Sahib does not accept these things.
Sacha Patshah explains logically. We accept logic, they accept magic.

When their preachers come here, do I or my supporters say anything? Let me say what I want, you say what you want.  Take time from the committee 4-5 days, say what you want.

Now this generation understands logic. Times have changed, we have to understand Gurbani according to the times. The ways of explaining in the old deras were OK for that time. Teachers in India used to hit students, not now. This is not the age of slaps and beating with sticks. Tell them that.

Otherwise say that our Brahmgianis thought whatever they thought, no one can think these days. 
God gave us the right to think, you can't take it away. Give the freedom of speech to everybody. They want to ask questions of me, don't allow me to ask questions. 

The people from yesterday don't accept that Sant Bhindrawale are shaheed.

Sorry if I said something wrong. Don't promote pulling turbans off. 

There's a person from California named Gurpreet. He's always where there's a dispute.  He stated that everybody in the Sangat was against Dhadrianwale actually, it was only about 15 people.
Don't make false statements. 

 

 

[S1ngh]

7 minutes ago, BhForce said:

There's a person from California named Gurpreet. He's always where there's a dispute.  He stated that everybody in the Sangat was against Dhadrianwale actually, it was only about 15 people.
Don't make false statements. 

Are you saying above or someone else? Because I know everything that happened there because I’m involved in it - first hand experience from day one meetings till today. Any questions?

[BhForce]

15 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

Are you saying above or someone else? Because I know everything that happened there because I’m involved in it - first hand experience from day one meetings till today. Any questions?

No, brother, this is my transcription of Sant Dhadrianwale's 10min video. From my post:

"This is basically what he said. I'll reply later on below:"

I don't know if Gurpreet Singh from California made a recent refutation video, but I know that he does a lot of that sort of thing. Quite interesting that Dhadrianwale did not address any substantive points made by Gurpreet Singh, but merely homed in on the number of protesters and supporters.

[BhForce]

27 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

Are you saying above or someone else? Because I know everything that happened there because I’m involved in it - first hand experience from day one meetings till today. Any questions?

Yes, I do.

What all went down?

Why did the committee even invite him in the first place? 

Are the cmte members rode hedonists and atheists? Devout rode? Kesadhari shraabi kabaabi, or devout kesadhari? Amritdhari or mistaken (missionary) Amritdhari?

Did some traditional Sikhs show up to oppose Dhadrianwale? In what way were they opposing Dhadrianwale? Did the cmte attempt to calmly ask the opponents to leave the Darbar Hall, or did they jump straight to beating them up? 

Was the cmte beating people up?

[S1ngh]

1 hour ago, BhForce said:

Why did the committee even invite him in the first place? 

Before I start, I was one of supporter of the current management’s supporter whether they have any program/event or elections. Even, we had their help in setting up Punjabi school locally. But anyway, everything goes away when it comes to make a stand on truth.

They always invite him. They also sponsored him legally to become the permanent resident of United States. They took that back last year (as I heard). Ranjit got his visa denied and this same management went to national congressman to get his visa approved. 

 

1 hour ago, BhForce said:

Are the cmte members rode hedonists and atheists? Devout rode? Kesadhari shraabi kabaabi, or devout kesadhari? Amritdhari or mistaken (missionary) Amritdhari?

Mix of different type of folks. There are few good men but main players had trouble past. Main sponsor who is also main spokesman of gurughar is amritdhari but blackens his beard pitch black and owns many liquor stores. Same guy is also president of akali dal badal (us). 

 

1 hour ago, BhForce said:

Did some traditional Sikhs show up to oppose Dhadrianwale? In what way were they opposing Dhadrianwale? Did the cmte attempt to calmly ask the opponents to leave the Darbar Hall, or did they jump straight to beating them up? 

 

Group of few singhs who were once good in terms with them. They went to ask for a meeting with Ranjit Singh a day before his program. That was their request. MGMT didn’t want to but somewhat agreed but never replied and ignored their repeated attempts to reach them days after meeting. They went back on their words. They didn’t want any meetings but one or two management members were on singhs side and made the meeting possible about one week before ranjit’s diwan.

35 to 40 singhs went on Friday (working day). Management was fully prepared. They were asking for id’s near entrance. Anyhow singhs were sitting in the diwan hall. All of them were of mix backgrounds.

The liquor store owner guy was the stage host. He is also the secretary of the gurughar. He announce please keep peace. An hour before Ranjit came in, liquor store owner guy along with hired security and his goons went to lift singhs up to take them off the gurdwara hall. Remember there was nothing happening when they went to Sangat area to remove them. One of their management person stopped this and sat with Sangat to keep peace. Ranjit came in afterwards- he did kirtan 30 mins, nobody said anything. When he started his usual lecture, Sangat started jaikaras and their folks also started to do same and then one of their guy who now caught on video came in and took off one singhs turban and then you know what happened.  Most of the singhs who came were mature middle age folks. In my personal view, management is in hankar and too proudly. They are bound to fail by making such reckless decisions. 

[S1ngh]

Clip of liquor store store owner and gurdwara management hitting a sitting young singh and trying to drag old person. This was the start.C4B596A7-0369-4215-BF2B-9A0D7EF49823.mov