In Defense of Baba Banda Singh Bahadur

[PreetamSingh]

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Baba Banda Singh jee Bahadur was the first supreme leader of the Sikhs and he was appointed to this position by Guru Sahib jee Himself.  Baba jee uprooted the 800 year old foreign rule from Punjab and established the Khalsa empire for the first time.  He was the greatest leader that Sikhs ever had but unfortunately, falling prey to the wrong propaganda by the government of that time, some Sikhs place wrong allegations on him.  In this video, we refute all the baseless allegations against Baba jee and prove that Baba jee was the greatest leader the Sikhs ever had.  Please watch this video carefully and also share it with others so that they too can benefit from it.  
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[Kira]

The person in the video contradicted himself through the video. He proclaimed Baba Ji as a Brahmgyani (which he was) but at the same time said Baba Ji made a mistake with "Fateh Darshan" as a way of performing slang for the full Fateh, I sincerely doubt someone on that spiritual level would make any use of any form of slang, especially for something given by Guru Father. Which is it? Quite a portion of it seems contradictory to what was written a good few hundred years after Baba Ji's martyrdom in Suraj Parkash (bearing in mind Kavi Ji spent a good few decades researching and gathering information for it).

 

Baba Ji was an amazing leader, extremely powerful (spiritually and physically). Guru Sahib appointed him to a task but Baba Ji (according to Suraj Parkash Granth) also made mistakes (not destroying Sirhind like he was ordered to, turning on the Khalsa, insulting Guru Mata and so on) which resulted in God taking away his powers and might. In all honesty we need a proper historical re-evaluation of his fascinating history. Most definitely there's truth in Kavi Ji's words but at the same time there may be more to it all. 

[dallysingh101]

3 minutes ago, Kira said:

The person in the video contradicted himself through the video. He proclaimed Baba Ji as a Brahmgyani (which he was) but at the same time said Baba Ji made a mistake with "Fateh Darshan" as a way of performing slang for the full Fateh, I sincerely doubt someone on that spiritual level would make any use of any form of slang, especially for something given by Guru Father. Which is it? Quite a portion of it seems contradictory to what was written a good few hundred years after Baba Ji's martyrdom in Suraj Parkash (bearing in mind Kavi Ji spent a good few decades researching and gathering information for it).

 

Baba Ji was an amazing leader, extremely powerful (spiritually and physically). Guru Sahib appointed him to a task but Baba Ji (according to Suraj Parkash Granth) also made mistakes (not destroying Sirhind like he was ordered to, turning on the Khalsa, insulting Guru Mata and so on) which resulted in God taking away his powers and might. In all honesty we need a proper historical re-evaluation of his fascinating history. Most definitely there's truth in Kavi Ji's words but at the same time there may be more to it all. 

Bhangu's Panth Prakash is also a great source on Banda Singh Bahadhur. 

There is this strong tendency by many apnay to whitewash (essentially rewrite) history to make it inline with some sort of preconceived (usually romanticised) image they have in their head. I think this way of thinking stems from victorian/anglo/protestant christian values  from the colonial period (that people have imbibed), because prior to that, indigenous Sikh historiography had no problems with warts and all accounts of Sikh history. After the 'annexation' Sikh historians all of a sudden felt compelled to start rewriting/hiding stuff. After a century of that, we've ended up in a strange position where we are overly suspicious of our own pre-colonial literature and whilst our ancestors had no problem with the contents, people today struggle to accept them.  

[Destruction]

4 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Bhangu's Panth Prakash is also a great source on Banda Singh Bahadhur. 

There is this strong tendency by many apnay to whitewash (essentially rewrite) history to make it inline with some sort of preconceived (usually romanticised) image they have in their head. I think this way of thinking stems from victorian/anglo/protestant christian values  from the colonial period (that people have imbibed), because prior to that, indigenous Sikh historiography had no problems with warts and all accounts of Sikh history. After the 'annexation' Sikh historians all of a sudden felt compelled to start rewriting/hiding stuff. After a century of that, we've ended up in a strange position where we are overly suspicious of our own pre-colonial literature and whilst our ancestors had no problem with the contents, people today struggle to accept them.  

Spot on mate!!!!

[Kira]

8 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Bhangu's Panth Prakash is also a great source on Banda Singh Bahadhur. 

There is this strong tendency by many apnay to whitewash (essentially rewrite) history to make it inline with some sort of preconceived (usually romanticised) image they have in their head. I think this way of thinking stems from victorian/anglo/protestant christian values  from the colonial period (that people have imbibed), because prior to that, indigenous Sikh historiography had no problems with warts and all accounts of Sikh history. After the 'annexation' Sikh historians all of a sudden felt compelled to start rewriting/hiding stuff. After a century of that, we've ended up in a strange position where we are overly suspicious of our own pre-colonial literature and whilst our ancestors had no problem with the contents, people today struggle to accept them.  

100% right. The author of this hasn't quoted any sources whatsoever. I've not read Panth Prakash yet but its on my to do list.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Banda Singh Bahadur was a great man, but he was not perfect. Problems with this video is that it over-exerts his success without a fair and unbiased view. Simply being chosen by the light of God himself couldn't stop him, Bahadur Shah himself worked with Guru Sahib, so that would mean he's great as well, but we all know the history. Even the legendary blessed Damdami Taksal, an institution made by Guru Sahib himself, led by Mahapurukhs since Baba Deep Singh Ji to Baba Thakur Singh Ji is also far from perfection,( in modern day). People are going to do what feels right, rather than what's actually right.

[Destruction]

13 minutes ago, Kira said:

I've not read Panth Prakash yet but its on my to do list.

Dear Kira,

 

you can find panth Parkash on "scribd" app

[Kira]

1 minute ago, Destruction said:

Dear Kira,

 

you can find panth Parkash on "scribd" app

thanks bro, im aware :D. I just don't have the time right now haha.

[dallysingh101]

38 minutes ago, Kira said:

thanks bro, im aware :D. I just don't have the time right now haha.

The section on Banda Singh (at the end of volume one) will blow your mind. It isn't too long either. 

 

Here it is, for whenever you are ready:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/54832175/Vol-1-SRI-GUR-PANTH-PRAKASH-by-Rattan-Singh-Bhangoo-Trans-Kulwant-Singh

[Kira]

8 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

The section on Banda Singh (at the end of volume one) will blow your mind. It isn't too long either. 

 

Here it is, for whenever you are ready:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/54832175/Vol-1-SRI-GUR-PANTH-PRAKASH-by-Rattan-Singh-Bhangoo-Trans-Kulwant-Singh

ill give it a smash before bedtime tonight.

 

 

Edit: I read a bit, this seems eerily familiar to me.