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On 7/3/2017 at 1:51 AM, genie said:

Seems like while our kaum's eyes were on dawahist islamic etxremists we had some sly black christian extremist groups who have been grooming british punjabi girls of Sikh families for relationships and eventual conversion to Christianity and here this one girl called raj jerett who probably ran off with her black christian boyfriend is on stage abusing Sikhi and Guru Ji's, while Christians in the clip clap and cheer her on. It reminds me of when hizb ut tahir and al mahajroun the 2 islamic extremists groups in 1995 who had allegedly converted 2 sikh girls on stage in london who went on to abuse sikhism and guru's seems like these evil abrahmic cults have the same tactics and agenda.

This video seems like was uploaded by a chrisitan org originally 7years ago long before the current controversial viral videos between sikhs and Christians in punjab.

 

This girl says she was sexually abused from a young age, until she left home. If that is true, I'm not surprised she has rejected her roots. 

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Good on her. As a Sikhs we respect all religions. If she chose Christianity or even another religion as her path then good on her and I wish her all the best. 

We should not stoop to her level though of disrespecting other faiths like she has done. 

Wjkk wjkf

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On 03/07/2017 at 6:22 PM, genie said:

Anyone willing to help expose the filth in bible teachings and in Christianity overall? It's time we give punjabi Christians scumbags a little pay back for all their sly conversions and digs they have been doing to Sikhi over their years without any reaction from Sikhs. 

Its time the Sikhs on mass expose Christianity.

e.g

The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery.  How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

you mean like this ?

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/what-marriage-would-look-like-if-we-actually-followed-the-bible-10484198.html

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On 03/07/2017 at 3:01 PM, MisterrSingh said:

Most blacks are incredibly gullible when it comes to being corralled in issues of religion or even social causes that are ironically to their detriment. They are followers in nature, even when they assume they're leading. A tiny minority of blacks who are capable of seeing the truth are hated and verbally abused into silence so that the majority can continue to play the blame game. 

A few of the notable figureheads of the various jathe and parchaar groups who reside in Punjab are currently touring North America on lucrative kirtan tours designed to rake in the dollars. Perhaps they should refocus their collective efforts on the Punjabi population back home, in order to prevent vulnerable people being drawn into the arms of these Christian missionaries. Sikhs converting to Christianity in India can be traced to government policies that put the squeeze on some of the vulnerable and desperate members of that society. 

 

Sikhs converting to christianity in india  is not because of govt policies but because the 25 million sikhs don't give a craap about economically and socially backward sikhs like the ravidasias and mazhabi and sikligar, to name a few. Thats why ravidasias split away from panth , while mazhabi and sikligars are still die hardy. The other so called "lower castes" in the "casteless" sikh  religion are likely to be vacuumed in christianity .

Hindus are very well aware of the dangers of both of these middle eastern abrahamic cults . 

Sikhs have still dug their heads in deep sand like ostrich pretending the problem doesn't exist.

As the first world country's reject religion , esp christianity and infact ridicule it , these evangelists have to move their bases to third world countries as education is less and poverty more in these third world countries. So people are gullible and prone to bribery . Thats why recent influx of christian missionaries in africa and asia .

If we don't stop them now , we will truly become a laughing stock for rest of india as punjab would be identified as a christian land rather than a sikh one . Apart from commenting on this forum , what can we do ? :/ 

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On 03/07/2017 at 11:58 PM, Ranjeet01 said:

One of the questions I have is in the West where we have accumulated wealth and prospered there is a need to give back in one way or another and people give back generously.  In some ways donated dasvandh is a manifestation of that. Do land owning and moneyed Sikhs in Punjab have the same need to give back like Western Sikhs or are they more apathetic?

Nopes, the land-owning and moneyed sikhs or Jatts as you would call them are too busy in their jatt-pride and wondering where they fit in between sikh pride and punjabi pride or rather jatt-pride . 

They would rather spend those money in launching themselves as a singer or waste it on drugs or try moving to kanneda or amreeka or ashtrelia . Also most of these guys are monneh, so they couldn't give a rat a** about sikhi, except selectively boasting about sikh soorme with whom they bear no semblance either in appearance or lifestyle or discipline ! 

The other punjab lives in dire poverty , is affected by uranium-infected waters which is giving them cancer like never seen before , the drug-addicts and god knows what not . 

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5 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Nopes, the land-owning and moneyed sikhs or Jatts as you would call them are too busy in their jatt-pride and wondering where they fit in between sikh pride and punjabi pride or rather jatt-pride . 

They would rather spend those money in launching themselves as a singer or waste it on drugs or try moving to kanneda or amreeka or ashtrelia . Also most of these guys are monneh, so they couldn't give a rat a** about sikhi, except selectively boasting about sikh soorme with whom they bear no semblance either in appearance or lifestyle or discipline ! 

The other punjab lives in dire poverty , is affected by uranium-infected waters which is giving them cancer like never seen before , the drug-addicts and god knows what not . 

Jatts aren't the only land owning and moneyed Sikhs in the Punjab?

Are they giving back?

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6 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Nopes, the land-owning and moneyed sikhs or Jatts as you would call them are too busy in their jatt-pride and wondering where they fit in between sikh pride and punjabi pride or rather jatt-pride . 

They would rather spend those money in launching themselves as a singer or waste it on drugs or try moving to kanneda or amreeka or ashtrelia . Also most of these guys are monneh, so they couldn't give a rat a** about sikhi, except selectively boasting about sikh soorme with whom they bear no semblance either in appearance or lifestyle or discipline ! 

The other punjab lives in dire poverty , is affected by uranium-infected waters which is giving them cancer like never seen before , the drug-addicts and god knows what not . 

I want to go to America!

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9 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Jatts aren't the only land owning and moneyed Sikhs in the Punjab?

Are they giving back?

TBH apart from monthly garahis to gurudwara , most of which we try to get RoI on by excessive eating at langar, 

I doubt most of us give daswand 

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10 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

They would rather spend those money in launching themselves as a singer or waste it on drugs or try moving to kanneda or amreeka or ashtrelia . Also most of these guys are monneh, so they couldn't give a rat a** about sikhi, except selectively boasting about sikh soorme with whom they bear no semblance either in appearance or lifestyle or discipline ! 

Yes, what on earth is this craze about launching a singing career? I'm assuming these guys have managed to talk their fathers into financing a move into showbusiness? Idiots. Why not use that cash to improve employment prospects by studying a valuable subject that will lead to a prosperous career? Don't get me wrong, i appreciate the draw of being creative, but it's like every other Sikh guy in Punjab wants to release an album, so it becomes less about beavering away until they're in a position to share their unique talent with the world through music, and becomes more a cynical grab for fame and fortune.

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20 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Yes, what on earth is this craze about launching a singing career? I'm assuming these guys have managed to talk their fathers into financing a move into showbusiness? Idiots. Why not use that cash to improve employment prospects by studying a valuable subject that will lead to a prosperous career? Don't get me wrong, i appreciate the draw of being creative, but it's like every other Sikh guy in Punjab wants to release an album, so it becomes less about beavering away until they're in a position to share their unique talent with the world through music, and becomes more a cynical grab for fame and fortune.

I've heard a few of these people's tunes now, they are about as generic as you can possibly get. Whatever this endeavour is, is certainly isn't one about creativity. 

And get this, they'll spend £20,000 on a video and studio time. 

 

It's obviously another manifestation of pendu 'status'.

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1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Yes, what on earth is this craze about launching a singing career? I'm assuming these guys have managed to talk their fathers into financing a move into showbusiness? Idiots. Why not use that cash to improve employment prospects by studying a valuable subject that will lead to a prosperous career? Don't get me wrong, i appreciate the draw of being creative, but it's like every other Sikh guy in Punjab wants to release an album, so it becomes less about beavering away until they're in a position to share their unique talent with the world through music, and becomes more a cynical grab for fame and fortune.

Perhaps you're not aware maybe that Indians have a sheep mentality .

In India, talent is whatever fetches you money. I understand this is quite different from western world attitudes.

If you ever look at businesses in india, you will see one sector usually dominated by one community.

Shetty's into hotel business. its so common it has become a cliched joke. 

Marwaris into jewellery . 

Gujaratis are thought of as businesses

South indians are usually top brass of corporates.

Punjabis are into trucking (my own dad). Some of them end up having big logistic companies. Another common profession our kaum has is driveri of taxi . or army.

I don't see that many white collar job sikhs . Except a few notable ones . Like Ajay Banga , CEO of mastercard. And few others. 

We're not that great into academics as a community. Punjabi , esp Sikh men are known to be physically sturdy but not very brainy when it comes to finer sciences like Mathematics, Physics, etc . 

Those who do study this sciences, they tend to excel . I don't want to say our kaum is weak when it comes to brains for academics, but we're not known to excel in these sciences. 

TBH, the craze for being a singer is because singing , acting and other media professions enable a person to get quickly what modern materialistic society defines as "sukh" : Money, Fame, Women. 

And being a singer , esp the kind of crrrap , raunchy ones that punjabi community generates in loads, we end up with YoYo , Badshah , Sukhwinder and the likes who get quick ticket to money , fame and women . 

Now you know why whole of punjab and Jatta de mundey wanna go that line lol 

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7 minutes ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Perhaps you're not aware maybe that Indians have a sheep mentality .

In India, talent is whatever fetches you money. I understand this is quite different from western world attitudes.

If you ever look at businesses in india, you will see one sector usually dominated by one community.

Shetty's into hotel business. its so common it has become a cliched joke. 

Marwaris into jewellery . 

Gujaratis are thought of as businesses

South indians are usually top brass of corporates.

Punjabis are into trucking (my own dad). Some of them end up having big logistic companies. Another common profession our kaum has is driveri of taxi . or army.

I don't see that many white collar job sikhs . Except a few notable ones . Like Ajay Banga , CEO of mastercard. And few others. 

We're not that great into academics as a community. Punjabi , esp Sikh men are known to be physically sturdy but not very brainy when it comes to finer sciences like Mathematics, Physics, etc . 

Those who do study this sciences, they tend to excel . I don't want to say our kaum is weak when it comes to brains for academics, but we're not known to excel in these sciences. 

TBH, the craze for being a singer is because singing , acting and other media professions enable a person to get quickly what modern materialistic society defines as "sukh" : Money, Fame, Women. 

And being a singer , esp the kind of crrrap , raunchy ones that punjabi community generates in loads, we end up with YoYo , Badshah , Sukhwinder and the likes who get quick ticket to money , fame and women . 

Now you know why whole of punjab and Jatta de mundey wanna go that line lol 

Punjabi men are 3D learners, they can solve problems on their feet that no Gujerati or South Indian can do.

There are a lot of people in the West that want to rich and famous quickly as well. Look at the Instagram models or the you tube stars.

All those talent shows and reality shows in India are copied from the models on the west.

We slag our own people off too much. Granted there are a lot of faults in our people but there are positives too.

 

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56 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Punjabi men are 3D learners, they can solve problems on their feet that no Gujerati or South Indian can do.

There are a lot of people in the West that want to rich and famous quickly as well. Look at the Instagram models or the you tube stars.

All those talent shows and reality shows in India are copied from the models on the west.

We slag our own people off too much. Granted there are a lot of faults in our people but there are positives too.

 

Talk about rose tinted glasses. 

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19 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Talk about rose tinted glasses. 

As per usual you are glass half empty.

You focus on the negative.

There are positive aspects too. It is better have an all round perspective. 

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2 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

As per usual you are glass half empty.

You focus on the negative.

There are positive aspects too. It is better have an all round perspective. 

I know there are positives, but hell, your type of attitude (which is unfortunately the norm in the community) is what essentially guarantees the negatives are only going to grow and become more entrenched. 

Remember we had decades of smug, self-congratulatory behaviour amongst our fudhoos in the UK (bhangra partying, showing off with the Mercedes and ostentatious weddings), whilst under our very noses God knows how many thousands of apneean were getting viciously sexually abused. Does that not register in your head? How positive are your positives when we've not even been able to protect our own daughters as a community?

We've already been made complete clowns off (that includes by the establishment here), so let us please not make the same mistakes again and again by ignoring threats like an ostrich, and seeking some feeling of relief in pyrrhic victories. We've had enough of that. 

 

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