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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

I know there are positives, but hell, your type of attitude (which is unfortunately the norm in the community) is what essentially guarantees the negatives are only going to grow and become more entrenched. 

Remember we had decades of smug, self-congratulatory behaviour amongst our fudhoos in the UK (bhangra partying, showing off with the Mercedes and ostentatious weddings), whilst under our very noses God knows how many thousands of apneean were getting viciously sexually abused. Does that not register in your head? How positive are your positives when we've not even been able to protect our own daughters as a community?

We've already been made complete clowns off (that includes by the establishment here), so let us please not make the same mistakes again and again by ignoring threats like an ostrich, and seeking some feeling of relief in pyrrhic victories. We've had enough of that. 

 

My attitude is looking at the whole picture.

I am perfectly aware what is going on wey before you even coming across these things.

Your focus is one thing, you cannot move forward with your method. You been spouting the same thing for the last 10 years on various websites, nobody is going to listen to you.

Some of your methods have been talked about 20 years ago and they haven't worked.You are so behind the curve it so unbelievable.

If you keep focusing on the negatives you create too much analysis paralysis and don't get anywhere.

That's why you are stuck like a broken record.

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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

My attitude is looking at the whole picture.

I am perfectly aware what is going on wey before you even coming across these things.

Your focus is one thing, you cannot move forward with your method. You been spouting the same thing for the last 10 years on various websites, nobody is going to listen to you.

Some of your methods have been talked about 20 years ago and they haven't worked.You are so behind the curve it so unbelievable.

If you keep focusing on the negatives you create too much analysis paralysis and don't get anywhere.

That's why you are stuck like a broken record.

I think the opposite is true. I think you actually perfectly exemplify the cause of why these issues were allowed to fester and grow for so long. 

Truth is that my people did make massive positive change. Whereas you think certain approaches are played out - you're wrong. It's only just a start. And one important plank. It's you that are behind the curve, and I'd guess your analysis simply stems from conservatism, and an absolute terror at sticking your neck out when dealing with external challenges (which may be well warranted, as you know yourself and what you could handle and otherwise - and you've probably been tyrannised by your parents since childhood to stamp such anakh out of you). You are completely risk averse. That's what got us into this crap in the first place. It was those who weren't so scared of taking risks that made changes. This is how it will be.  

But you could always slither away to some conservative backwater, away from any action, and play it safe your whole life I guess. 

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54 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think the opposite is true. I think you actually perfectly exemplify the cause of why these issues were allowed to fester and grow for so long. 

Truth is that my people did make massive positive change. Whereas you think certain approaches are played out - you're wrong. It's only just a start. And one important plank. It's you that are behind the curve, and I'd guess your analysis simply stems from conservatism, and an absolute terror at sticking your neck out when dealing with external challenges (which may be well warranted, as you know yourself and what you could handle and otherwise - and you've probably been tyrannised by your parents since childhood to stamp such anakh out of you). You are completely risk averse. That's what got us into this crap in the first place. It was those who weren't so scared of taking risks that made changes. This is how it will be.  

But you could always slither away to some conservative backwater, away from any action, and play it safe your whole life I guess. 

I tell you what Dally. Go out there yourself and test your hypothesis and tell me what you come back.

Reality is you won't stick your neck out when it counts.

You are still stuck in the 1980s. 

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8 hours ago, satsangee said:

A lot of mistakes have been made by our community over the last 20-25 years.

Those 'mistakes' have now become habitual and we just sweep them under the rug.

Untill we don't bring this out into the open and tackle it - there is no moving forward really

Exactly, and people are too scared or lazy, and even attack those who try and highlight things and combat issues, probably because it makes them feel inferior through dissonance. These things are more important than personal ego issues though. 

We should know by now, if we don't actively address things, they get a thousand times worse and infinitely more difficult to deal with down the line. 

But going back to the earlier vid. Not withstanding how SIkh girls can be jumped up and obnoxious, if what that girl is saying in the video is true (that her father sexually abused her for years), then it's no shock she did what she did. Plus she might just like BBCs - a lot of girls do apparently. 

Lesson to learn. If you have a daughter, don't go too heavy with her, and try and build a relationship based on love rather than fear. That being said: there is no guarantee that a girl will grow up to be an angel - no matter what you do. It's human nature to equate ideas, religions, politics with the people who express identification with the said ideals. So parents should be extra careful not to make kids think that their heritage is some form of cruel oppression. Because, as soon as child grows up, they will attack and reject that thing with vigor. 

That looks like what we are seeing here? 

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40 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

The law says no but the singhi was being told by the SSP not to make a fuss after being slapped by one of the foreign missionaries (Korean)

Says it all.......

 

I remember reading about a European artist getting beaten and nearly killed by nihangs during M. Ranjit Singh's period because they thought he was smoking at Harmandir Sahib (he claimed he wasn't and was just holding a paintbrush in his mouth whilst sketching). 

And behold today - Maharaja 'put jut da' Badal's legacy. We've become a proper joke. 

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