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On 2017-6-22 at 3:31 AM, ipledgeblue said:

A solution is, if amrit-dharis followed rehit, IF, then, only then more people might want to be Singhs.

When I say rehit, I don't mean just the paper rehit maryada people have now. I mean following the active lifestyle rehit like in the rehitnaamas, rehit that has been followed since Guru Hargobind. Doing things like learning archery, shooting, horse-riding etc Follow Gurus hukam of learning shastar everyday, and also learn martial arts. (See Nihang Singh dals for example)

Instead of being people that religiously follow football and cricket matches, they would be involved in these activities. Then they would be an actual "practising" amrit dhari, as opposed to someone who took amrit just to do paat, which any sehajdhari or "mona" can actually do! Can gurdwaras and sikh associations organise such activities? Organising kabaddi tournaments isn't really going  to make sangat proper amrit dharis. However, organising kabaddi and wrestling training for sangat to be involved in would help!

WE absolutely should not act like the disarmed sikhs of colonial times. Instead of becoming like the naamdharis who put the kirpaan symbol in the kanga, we should get out of this colonial compromise of not following martial rehit and get back to actually being Singhs. Can the community do this?

The bases of rehat didn't start in Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji time.  Bases of rehat is from Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji and its, Ik Onkar praise, hukam, Naam, and simran.  This guy says anyone can do paath.  Then how come he doesn't understand Tvad Parsad Swaiyve?  Swaiyve say bases of shastar vidyia is paath.  If Mona can do paath without Amrit how come they are not taking following the Gurus hukam to keep hair uncut?  This guy speaks of nihangs.  Nihangs say rehit is grown and paath is done by doing praise of Akal Purakh.  This guy must be talking to nidar the giddar who drinks alcohol and this niddars foundation.

First 5 Gurus didn't even pick up a sword to fight anyone.  According to this poster this means the gurus never followed the active lifestyle rehit.  Neither did anyone of the Gurmukhs of the first 5 Gurus period.  Therefore these first 5 gurus only did paath which even the hindus and Muslims were doing.  See how ridiculous these extremist liberals thinking has gone.  They want people to stop reading Gurbani.  This makes people more vulnerable and can easily be swayed by these type of people.

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On 2017-6-21 at 8:55 PM, californiasardar1 said:

 

Yup.  Moneh want to associate with the Sikh religion when it is convenient for them, and keep a distance from anything having to do with Sikhi when it is not convenient for them.

They will post images of gurus and shaheeds on facebook, and then disrespect singhs in real life simply for being singhs.

This is very true

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On 6/23/2017 at 10:56 AM, dallysingh101 said:

What about gays? Would people call them Sikhs? 

Well if the person gives up a gay lifestyle and takes amrit, obviously.But can he be called sikh while hes living the gay lifestyle ? That ght there shows the trouble with the whole concept of sehajdhari. Anyone can call themselves a sikh while doing unethical, nonSikh things. Basically picking and choosing. But that happens in every religion. Even islam has women who dont cover, dont believe in hadiths, claim shariah is manmade, are Quranist only and claim they are muslim to the chagrin of other muslims. We can higjlight that there is a definition of a sikh and add more limitations, not that that would help. As theres already ppl  calling themselves gay sikhs...but we could try limiting who is a sehajdhari.

For example, SRM says a sikh 

1) believes in 1 God  

2) believes in all 10 gurus and their writings

3) takes sggs as their guru

4)believes in no other religion

5) believes in amrit.....this here is wat we can use to further define a sehajdhari: we can say therefore a sehajdhari must stay away from 4 bujjar kurehits: so no drugs, drinking, dating, gay lifestyle etc...and if we wanted we could say the kesh kurehit is the last one, a sehajdhari gives up, to show he is reasy for amrit. Also we can say a sehajdhari is always prepping  for amrit so must start doing paath atleast japji sahib and rehraas sahib.  No that theres anyway to enforce this and excluding ppl is not gonna help

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On 2017-6-22 at 3:15 AM, Akalifauj said:

For one second moni ji giddar da putt can't stop insulting amritdharis.  This is deep rooted hate.  What happened moni ji, did a amritdhari take your girl away.  This guy is weak at heart.  How do I know?  Because guys who have strength never boost about being tough like this guy.  They don't boost like this internet warrior because they know their strength and rather use words to resolve issues.  They know they can smash a guys head in 10 seconds flat but rather not because they don't waste their time on internet warriors, like moni.  I have seen people like moni being smashed because they thought a cheap shot will work.  Its the reality these giddars face because of their doing. This guys is a uncle, I mean a late 40 year old uncle and he's coming on sikh forums to call Sikh amritdhari youth weak and afraid.  Why does he do this? Because he's weak at heart and can't follow Gurus hukam.  Its been some 20 years and he still can't keep hair uncut but he's got the strength to come on sikh forums to knock down amritdharis.  There is not a bigger coward on sikh forum sites than this guy. He has one goal, he's already sunk into the deep pit of hell and knows it and now he's on a mission to drag others down with him.  Read this moni's post and they are majority about putting down Gurmat.  Whether regarding Gurbani, history, rehat maryada, you name it all about turning people against Gurmat.  Christians talk about the devil, this guy is slave of the devil.  He has no respect for anyone or anything and especially not Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji.

Who you on about? Is the name "Moni da putt?" Or "This guy?" - which guy? 

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