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digraceful indian punjabi woman sukwinder javeed and her muslim husband going to be on uk big brother tv show

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6 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Lol.

You can't even substantiate anything you have said.. You have falsely  referenced a hukumnama and attributed something to Guru gobind Singh Ji, dashmesh pita.. Shame on you.. Your worse than ram rai 

The wording of your reference is totally wrong which demonstrates the respect you have for the words of Guru sahibs. 

Better to post as a woman than as a half baked fake.. You shook? 

I tell you what let's go back to basics.. Since you are a authority on things can you please provide me with a reference number of the hukumnama you are talking about and a link to it.. 

Forgive me for assuming that you probably have never done your own research 

 

Hukam 38 :

Sir munae noo kanaiaa nahee daenee. Uos ghar daeve jithae Akal Purukh dee sikhee ha, jo karza-ai naa hovae, bhalae subhaa da hovae, bibaekee atae gyanvaan hovae|
Do not given a daughter's hand in marriage to a shaven one. Give her to a household where the Undying divine personification Akal purakh and tenets of Sikhism are respected, to household without debt, of a pleasing nature, which is disciplined and educated.

 

and a couple  for you:

Hukam 22:

Dhan, javaanee, tae kul jaat da abhiman naee karnaa (Nanak daadak tahe duae goath. Saak guroo Sikhan sang hoath)|

Do not be proud of riches, youthfulness or lineage. (Regardless of maternal and paternal caste or heritage, all of the Guru's Sikhs are siblings of one family.)

Hukam 25:

Budh bal da daataa vaheguroo noo jaananaa|

Appreciate intellect and power as gifts of the all knowing wondrous Enlightener.

 

lose the sneering tone if you really want people to engage you

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2 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

Hukam 38 :

Sir munae noo kanaiaa nahee daenee. Uos ghar daeve jithae Akal Purukh dee sikhee ha, jo karza-ai naa hovae, bhalae subhaa da hovae, bibaekee atae gyanvaan hovae|
Do not given a daughter's hand in marriage to a shaven one. Give her to a household where the Undying divine personification Akal purakh and tenets of Sikhism are respected, to household without debt, of a pleasing nature, which is disciplined and educated.

 

and a couple  for you:

Hukam 22:

Dhan, javaanee, tae kul jaat da abhiman naee karnaa (Nanak daadak tahe duae goath. Saak guroo Sikhan sang hoath)|

Do not be proud of riches, youthfulness or lineage. (Regardless of maternal and paternal caste or heritage, all of the Guru's Sikhs are siblings of one family.)

Hukam 25:

Budh bal da daataa vaheguroo noo jaananaa|

Appreciate intellect and power as gifts of the all knowing wondrous Enlightener.

 

lose the sneering tone if you really want people to engage you

Don't throw stones if you live in glass houses 

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3 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

Hukam 38 :

Sir munae noo kanaiaa nahee daenee. Uos ghar daeve jithae Akal Purukh dee sikhee ha, jo karza-ai naa hovae, bhalae subhaa da hovae, bibaekee atae gyanvaan hovae|
Do not given a daughter's hand in marriage to a shaven one. Give her to a household where the Undying divine personification Akal purakh and tenets of Sikhism are respected, to household without debt, of a pleasing nature, which is disciplined and educated.

 

and a couple  for you:

Hukam 22:

Dhan, javaanee, tae kul jaat da abhiman naee karnaa (Nanak daadak tahe duae goath. Saak guroo Sikhan sang hoath)|

Do not be proud of riches, youthfulness or lineage. (Regardless of maternal and paternal caste or heritage, all of the Guru's Sikhs are siblings of one family.)

Hukam 25:

Budh bal da daataa vaheguroo noo jaananaa|

Appreciate intellect and power as gifts of the all knowing wondrous Enlightener.

 

lose the sneering tone if you really want people to engage you

I was going to post him the commandments but she/he obviously doesn't want to make the effort to research.

I would advise all Sikhs on this forum to not reply to Sukhvirk1976 who is an obvious anti-sikh punjabi atheist troll hell bent on causing mischief with nonsensical arguments.

He/she got exposed the other time in the quality controlled account peddling the same anti-sikh liberal far leftist nonsense and now made a new account to carry on thinking he/she wont get found out.

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2 hours ago, genie said:

I was going to post him the commandments but she/he obviously doesn't want to make the effort to research.

I would advise all Sikhs on this forum to not reply to Sukhvirk1976 who is an obvious anti-sikh punjabi atheist troll hell bent on causing mischief with nonsensical arguments.

He/she got exposed the other time in the quality controlled account peddling the same anti-sikh liberal far leftist nonsense and now made a new account to carry on thinking he/she wont get found out.

What a joke 

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2 hours ago, genie said:

I was going to post him the commandments but she/he obviously doesn't want to make the effort to research.

I would advise all Sikhs on this forum to not reply to Sukhvirk1976 who is an obvious anti-sikh punjabi atheist troll hell bent on causing mischief with nonsensical arguments.

He/she got exposed the other time in the quality controlled account peddling the same anti-sikh liberal far leftist nonsense and now made a new account to carry on thinking he/she wont get found out.

You just talk nonsense. I see a commonality amongst most big mouth bigots, attack attack attack but as soon as someone demonstrates there hypocrisy and points out how shallow there knowledge is. 

If you were going to quote the hukumnama or even knew first hand how did you get it so wrong... Your a Fraud, the genie is out the bottle 

 

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10 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

You just talk nonsense. I see a commonality amongst most big mouth bigots, attack attack attack but as soon as someone demonstrates there hypocrisy and points out how shallow there knowledge is. 

If you were going to quote the hukumnama or even knew first hand how did you get it so wrong... Your a Fraud, the genie is out the bottle 

 

you're* their* 

 

I strongly advise learning English grammar and mastering the english language before trying to act like a hard man on a forum.  Thus far you've been be refuted on multiple threads but you have the audacity to throw stones at others over mundane things, you can't even accept Guru Sahib's own Hukams so please.  Going by your username which contains "1976" I assume that's the year you were born in, so you're what? 40-41? You act like a child throwing a tantrum rather than a grown up human being. Grow up and learn something rather than sneering and looking down on others. The sheer fact you couldn't be bothered googling the phrase "52 hukamnamas of Guru Gobind Singh Ji" shows how incompetent and lacking of brain cells you are.

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1 hour ago, Kira said:

you're* their* 

 

I strongly advise learning English grammar and mastering the english language before trying to act like a hard man on a forum.  Thus far you've been be refuted on multiple threads but you have the audacity to throw stones at others over mundane things, you can't even accept Guru Sahib's own Hukams so please.  Going by your username which contains "1976" I assume that's the year you were born in, so you're what? 40-41? You act like a child throwing a tantrum rather than a grown up human being. Grow up and learn something rather than sneering and looking down on others. The sheer fact you couldn't be bothered googling the phrase "52 hukamnamas of Guru Gobind Singh Ji" shows how incompetent and lacking of brain cells you are.

Give over... So  you're khoj is limited to googling, now the penny drops! Gosh how stupid of me... It's really easy 

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How utterly ridiculous.. Spend time spitting venom, loose lipped, and then the audacity to become sanctimonious... The mind boggles 

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I wonder how many more Sukhvinder javeeds there are. I know of two cases personaly in the local area. 

In about 10 years time it will become the norm for Sikh women to marry muslim. Just imagine it.  If this generation is so bad .  What will the next one be like.  

This does not apply to all Sikh women.  I know many who would never dream of doing what this randi has done. 

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12 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Give over... So  you're khoj is limited to googling, now the penny drops! Gosh how stupid of me... It's really easy 

*sigh* your* in this instance, honestly if you're going to sneer and act smart at-least master the English language so at the very least you can pass reception level. 

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On 6/7/2017 at 7:33 PM, Big_Tera said:

What would you rather see we praised these people for eloping and marrying muslims? 

Excellent! Very succint rebuttal of the Islamophile position. You did in one sentence what I took multiple paragraphs to do.

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2 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

I wonder how many more Sukhvinder javeeds there are. I know of two cases personaly in the local area. 

In about 10 years time it will become the norm for Sikh women to marry muslim. Just imagine it.  If this generation is so bad .  What will the next one be like.  

This does not apply to all Sikh women.  I know many who would never dream of doing what this randi has done. 

It will never be the norm. What will be the norm is that Sikhs forget their faith, and start accepting non-sense. There are some Sikhs today, who believe that "all religions are equal", (as we speak there is probably someone who is getting influenced by such lies today). I'm also not talking about Monas, but some confused Amritdharis who believe in such things.

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4 hours ago, Kira said:

*sigh* your* in this instance, honestly if you're going to sneer and act smart at-least master the English language so at the very least you can pass reception level. 

No sneering involved,  I responded to in kind. 

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4 minutes ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

No sneering involved,  I responded to in kind. 

You've been sneering and acting like you're better than anyone on here all throughout the thread. Great job on the lying now. Dear me, so you haven't even mastered English and seem to want to hurl accusations of  "shallow knowledge" and being ill-formed at others. Gob-smacking how someone with so much ego has so little actual intelligence. 

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2 hours ago, Kira said:

You've been sneering and acting like you're better than anyone on here all throughout the thread. Great job on the lying now. Dear me, so you haven't even mastered English and seem to want to hurl accusations of  "shallow knowledge" and being ill-formed at others. Gob-smacking how someone with so much ego has so little actual intelligence. 

We're all entitled to our opinion. "So much ego and so little actual intelligence..",... Interesting proclamation.. I would have thought someone criticising another for apparently having a big ego would think it intelligent to not cast aspersions, for surely the confidence to make such statements are inherently egotistic..and such a contradiction doesn't display a great deal of intelligence or at least  any discernment.. By your measure we may have something in common.. Lol 

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1 hour ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

We're all entitled to our opinion. "So much ego and so little actual intelligence..",... Interesting proclamation.. I would have thought someone criticising another for apparently having a big ego would think it intelligent to not cast aspersions, for surely the confidence to make such statements are inherently egotistic..and such a contradiction doesn't display a great deal of intelligence or at least  any discernment.. By your measure we may have something in common.. Lol 

Everyone can have their opinion, yet I've never met a Sikh that openly sneers at the proclamations of his own Guru.  I'm hardly the egotistical maniac here. Stating someone is full of ego is hardly something that makes me egotistical. Next you'll say calling Mussolini a fascist makes me a fascist. Nice try though. I suggest mastering proper English before trying to take the moral high ground. 

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9 minutes ago, Kira said:

Everyone can have their opinion, yet I've never met a Sikh that openly sneers at the proclamations of his own Guru.  I'm hardly the egotistical maniac here. Stating someone is full of ego is hardly something that makes me egotistical. Next you'll say calling Mussolini a fascist makes me a fascist. Nice try though. I suggest mastering proper English before trying to take the moral high ground. 

Oh dear... Here we go.. 

1. Can you please substantiate your allegation that I sneered at a proclamation of our Gurus? 

2. Disappointingly, You have just demonstrated how hollow your critique of me is. You echoed  the the language of jkvlondon who made the comment "lose the sneering tone if you really want people to engage you" in reference to my criticism of genie.. However,  your instincts to belittle me without being concise has inadvertently led you to make a false accusation against me. Please show me where in this thread I have sneered at a proclamation of Guru sahib?.. 

3. Ego.. . You have repeatedly sought to mock my grasp of the English language and not being intelligent.. (which I happen to agree with, I'm pretty unintelligent and definitely could improve my Hinglish).. The fact that you sought to mock me, suggest I don't have a good grasp of English, and not intelligent (whether any of that is true or not) inherently suggests that you believe that you are more intelligent than me (which if there was a test to qualify and measure intelligence I'm sure you would perform better).. is a egotistical.. 

Do you want me to continue? 

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@Kira pot kettle, kettle pot.. Talking is good. I welcome constructive criticism and will always try to engage with people with a open mind. Surely as Sikhs we should move beyond using this space as a environment to cast aspersions and denigrate people but rather engage in conversation to explore sikhi.. I find it unfortunate that those voices of people who have different opinions and understandings are dismissed and demonised.. Better not to present evidence based rational conversation? 

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18 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

I wonder how many more Sukhvinder javeeds there are. I know of two cases personaly in the local area. 

In about 10 years time it will become the norm for Sikh women to marry muslim. Just imagine it.  If this generation is so bad .  What will the next one be like.  

This does not apply to all Sikh women.  I know many who would never dream of doing what this randi has done. 

Its alarming and shocking. Problem is that the elders in our community allow this.

The Gurudwara commitees have also allowed this, not mention the fact that the gyanis performing the anand karaj - have nothing to say and go ahead and perform the marriage.

In some cases they give the couple their full support.

Me personally I find this very disheartening to think what the future of our religion will be

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15 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

It will never be the norm. What will be the norm is that Sikhs forget their faith, and start accepting non-sense. There are some Sikhs today, who believe that "all religions are equal", (as we speak there is probably someone who is getting influenced by such lies today). I'm also not talking about Monas, but some confused Amritdharis who believe in such things.

Problem is Sikhs today don't bother to look into gurbani themselves, but seek 'knowledge' from so called elders, who go off on a tangent with their pind type mentality - 'oh koni na, ohde karma vich jo likheah hogya' - nonsense.

There is no logic in this approach.

The sahibzade chose death over living a life of wordly pleasures because of the commitment to the true faith of Sikhi.

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5 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

@Kira pot kettle, kettle pot.. Talking is good. I welcome constructive criticism and will always try to engage with people with a open mind. Surely as Sikhs we should move beyond using this space as a environment to cast aspersions and denigrate people but rather engage in conversation to explore sikhi.. I find it unfortunate that those voices of people who have different opinions and understandings are dismissed and demonised.. Better not to present evidence based rational conversation? 

actually you do not welcome constructive criticism , you could not take the suggestion I made without lashing out ...

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Is anyone watching the show?

There will be alot of Sikh youth who are watching the randi and the muslim . This could influence them in a negative way. Ie ie it could normalise these marriages in their thinking. It could also encourage more of these marriages. 

This randi has no idea what damage she is doing to Sikhi and disgracing our faith on live tv. 

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14 minutes ago, Big_Tera said:

Is anyone watching the show?

Nobody is watching it, lol. It's a trashy show on a second-rate TV channel. You're getting worked up into a lather about something  that stopped being relevant a decade ago. There's an audience, for sure, but not in numbers that have any relevance. Credit people with the intelligence to realise that she does not represent the Sikh faith. Her antics will be forgotten in a few weeks. Well, credit the people who aren't avid Big Brother fans, lol. 

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37 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Nobody is watching it, lol. It's a trashy show on a second-rate TV channel. You're getting worked up into a lather about something  that stopped being relevant a decade ago. There's an audience, for sure, but not in numbers that have any relevance. Credit people with the intelligence to realise that she does not represent the Sikh faith. Her antics will be forgotten in a few weeks. Well, credit the people who aren't avid Big Brother fans, lol. 

So what about the sikh girls that are currently in relationships with muslims? I am sure these are the exact type of girls who will be watching very closely.  These girls will look up to the randi as a role model. As somone that has married a muslim. Dont underestimate the power of the media. This randi is now a poster girl for for muslim marriages. If you cant see that you must have your head in the sand. 

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