digraceful indian punjabi woman sukwinder javeed and her muslim husband going to be on uk big brother tv show

[genie]

1 hour ago, Jacfsing2 said:

I never said it was ok, but seriously speaking these people have no real loyalty to the Panth, they are probably closer to people of their own caste then they are from people of the same religion, but different caste. These are the types who would say Punjabi or Jaata di Nishan over Sikh Da Nishan. Also by "Sharia fanatics" I wasn't referring to actual Sikhs, but the extreme Islamic Apologists. But if we are talking about marrying these types, then I don't want whoever I marry to be a crazy Islamic Apologists, so don't bring me personally into this.

Ah yes... apologies I thought you was referring to fellow sikhs on the forum as "sharia fanatics" you didn't make your point clear.

Sometimes we get islamo-apologist liberals from the anti-sikh atheist punjabi and hindu punjabi community on online, that call Sikhs who want to retain the unique Sikh identity and pro-sikh policies, as "sikh taliban" or "khali-bani's". They seem to think its ok to have a pro-islam policy, pro-atheist policy, pro-hindu policy but as soon as Sikhs want to safeguard and sustain their demographics, religious and national interests they are not allowed and are maligned by the scumbags.

[BhForce]

Thanks for highlighting this disturbing problem. There are follow-on effects from these types of marriages. It's not just Sikh A marries Muslim B. The whole extended family of Sikh A gets into contact with the extended family of Muslim B. And we all know that Muslims are much more committed to Dawa activities than Sikhs, who mostly think it's a sin to do parchar.

15 hours ago, genie said:

Sukhvinder was raised in a strict Sikh family, Imran in a strict Muslim family,

I would be willing to guess that a "strict Sikh family" means something much different than a "strict Muslim family". Any family that remotely has a semblance of Sikh devotion (like maybe doing Japji one a week on Sunday, or Sukhmani Sahib once a year on your child's birthday) is considered "strict".

A "strict Muslim family", on the other hand, is quite a different thing, adhering closely to Sharia, and eager and willing to expand the Ummah through the techniques we all know about.

[BhForce]

15 hours ago, genie said:

husband and wife housemates Imran and Sukhvinder Javeed, a pair of entrepreneurs who met at school when they were just eight years old

One thing that some of you may not want to hear is that the modern Western romantic notion of "love" is leading to the destruction of our community around the edges. When you concede that the only thing that matters is whether the two individuals are in "love", then you basically are saying that it doesn't matter what faith the two are, you can't help who you fall in love with, and whoever you have an infatuation with is who you're supposed to marry.

I would be interested in engaging with someone who disagrees with me and who believes in the modern Western notion of "love", as has been taught to you by your teachers and the media.

[genie]

6 hours ago, BhForce said:

Thanks for highlighting this disturbing problem. There are follow-on effects from these types of marriages. It's not just Sikh A marries Muslim B. The whole extended family of Sikh A gets into contact with the extended family of Muslim B. And we all know that Muslims are much more committed to Dawa activities than Sikhs, who mostly think it's a sin to do parchar.

I would be willing to guess that a "strict Sikh family" means something much different than a "strict Muslim family". Any family that remotely has a semblance of Sikh devotion (like maybe doing Japji one a week on Sunday, or Sukhmani Sahib once a year on your child's birthday) is considered "strict".

A "strict Muslim family", on the other hand, is quite a different thing, adhering closely to Sharia, and eager and willing to expand the Ummah through the techniques we all know about.

Absolutely right, the strict Sikh thing in that piece....i'm guessing is just coming from her to save her families face for what she did.

She has probably ruined her parents lives as in the community people will always remember them as the family whose nasty daughter ran off with a muslim and had muslim children with him. Its absolutely horrible stain to have on any non-muslim never mind a proud Sikh family who a few decades age were resorting to honour killing their sisters and daughters to save them from horrible abductions, rapes, torture and eventual death at the hands of muslim mobs in sikh villages in 1947 newly created pakistan.

[MisterrSingh]

6 hours ago, BhForce said:

One thing that some of you may not want to hear is that the modern Western romantic notion of "love" is leading to the destruction of our community around the edges. When you concede that the only thing that matters is whether the two individuals are in "love", then you basically are saying that it doesn't matter what faith the two are, you can't help who you fall in love with, and whoever you have an infatuation with is who you're supposed to marry.

I would be interested in engaging with someone who disagrees with me and who believes in the modern Western notion of "love", as has been taught to you by your teachers and the media.

Dilute and homogenise. That's the plan. 

[Guest Jacfsing2]

6 hours ago, BhForce said:

One thing that some of you may not want to hear is that the modern Western romantic notion of "love" is leading to the destruction of our community around the edges. When you concede that the only thing that matters is whether the two individuals are in "love", then you basically are saying that it doesn't matter what faith the two are, you can't help who you fall in love with, and whoever you have an infatuation with is who you're supposed to marry.

I would be interested in engaging with someone who disagrees with me and who believes in the modern Western notion of "love", as has been taught to you by your teachers and the media.

I agree with the strict Sikh idea being pounded on any person you meet who merely knows of Guru Sahib. If you call Guru Sahib just a great philosopher, you'd be called a fanatic by some people, so calling him the liberator of our souls, the perfect being, and beyond human, and they'd go crazy.

And I honestly don't know much on the secular Western idea of love, (where I'm from, it's mostly based on Christian values).

[dallysingh101]

Are we going to highlight every last girl from a Sikh background who is acting up on the forum now? 

 

Anyone with half a brain knows what goes on. I don't think there is any good reason to keep posting these things myself. 

[genie]

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

Are we going to highlight every last girl from a Sikh background who is acting up on the forum now? 

 

Anyone with half a brain knows what goes on. I don't think there is any good reason to keep posting these things myself. 

Personally I couldn't care less what some random slag of sikh family background does but when she is promoting the notion that its ok to marry a muslim guy and publicizing it on mainstream media in a popular TV show for millions of impressionable Sikh and non-muslim females watching to get influenced thinking its acceptable and ok too? Then we all should consider it a covert sly attack on the sikh community.

Its psychological warfare against non-muslims and its targeting our community.

[genie]

*edited* repost....

[dallysingh101]

35 minutes ago, genie said:

Personally I couldn't care less what some random slag of sikh family background does but when she is promoting the notion that its ok to marry a muslim guy and publicizing it on mainstream media in a popular TV show for millions of impressionable Sikh and non-muslim females watching to get influenced thinking its acceptable and ok too? Then we all should consider it a covert sly attack on the sikh community.

Its psychological warfare against non-muslims and its targeting our community.

Well, I think mainstream media are the ones who are knowingly promoting this stuff. I see similar when they've been highlighted Neelam Gill's relationship with Zayn Malik recently . We know this goes on. I'd like the forum to be a platform from which we can get away from this crap, not continuously highlight every last attention seeking 'rebel' apnee.