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So true brother as RSS sent their Ramesh Kumar aka. Panthpreet to stir trouble. Agree?

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Sikhs need to realise that Pakistan's ISI are a bigger threat than the RSS. Watch out for ISI agents in the Sikh community. These agents might appear Sikhs, but they are just atheistic agent provocateurs without a conscience. The ISI only wish to see Sikh 'kafirs' fight Hindu 'kafirs'. That's why they support Khalistan so much. Not to see Sikhs have their own homeland, but to cause bloodshed between Sikhs and Hindus. A true Momin (Muslim believer) will never truly help a kafir (infidel).

The torture of Guru Arjan Dev ji, the execution of Guru Tegh Bahadur ji, the stabbing of Guru Gobind Singh ji, Ahmad Shah Abdali's attack on the Harmandir sahib, etc. were all committed by Islamists, simply because we are not Muslim. Never Forget 1947 either, where the Islamists committed genocide against Sikhs and Hindus during the Partition. Being anti-non-Muslim is in the Koran and the Hadiths.

As Sikhs, we cannot hate Islam or any other religion, but we are taught to realise reality and are permitted to physically fight any Jihadi who provokes a fight. The Sufis Muslims are a peaceful spiritual people who do not care for violent Jihad. For this reason, the radical Islamists consider them heretics.

Read the Karni Nama. Sikhs will not just conquer Punjab, but the Khalsa army will invade Lahore, Kabul, Tehran, Mecca, Medina, Rome and the rest of the world. That's why we say "Raj Karega Khalsa!" which is in the Karni Nama.

And beware of Islamist propagandists posting comments under Sikh names in forums, etc. Again, their job is to incite Sikh-Hindu hatred. These Islamists will certainly suffer chaurasi lakh joon.

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On 2017-6-4 at 6:57 PM, Guest Karni Nama said:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Sikhs need to realise that Pakistan's ISI are a bigger threat than the RSS. Watch out for ISI agents in the Sikh community. These agents might appear Sikhs, but they are just atheistic agent provocateurs without a conscience. 

LOL yeah nice one. Quite an imagination you have there.

So when I see guys with dastars and kesh I will make the assumption that they are probably ISI.

Dumb conspiracy theory, I have to say............

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On ‎15‎/‎06‎/‎2017 at 0:26 AM, Guest london jwaan said:

LOL yeah nice one. Quite an imagination you have there.

So when I see guys with dastars and kesh I will make the assumption that they are probably ISI.

Dumb conspiracy theory, I have to say............

Quite a bit of ignorance you have there.

Truth is usually labelled as dumb by gadaars of dharam such as yourself.

Guys with kesh and dastars are not necessarily Gursikhs, just as ISIS members are not necessarily practicing Muslims. ISI's agents come in many forms (e.g. Khalistani, Nagaland separatists, Naxilites, etc). These cheap thugs are tempted by the perks and incentives offered by their puppet masters.

Mark Twain once said: "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled."

In case you're a jihadist posting as a non-Muslim, Pakistan Murdabad! ISI Murdabad! Jihad Murdabad!

Sikhs should support the Balochi Muslim separatists and help them fight the Pakistani army and jihadists.

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15 hours ago, Guest Never Forget 1947 said:

Quite a bit of ignorance you have there.

Truth is usually labelled as dumb by gadaars of dharam such as yourself.

Guys with kesh and dastars are not necessarily Gursikhs, just as ISIS members are not necessarily practicing Muslims. ISI's agents come in many forms (e.g. Khalistani, Nagaland separatists, Naxilites, etc). These cheap thugs are tempted by the perks and incentives offered by their puppet masters.

Mark Twain once said: "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled."

In case you're a jihadist posting as a non-Muslim, Pakistan Murdabad! ISI Murdabad! Jihad Murdabad!

Sikhs should support the Balochi Muslim separatists and help them fight the Pakistani army and jihadists.

What if guys with kesh dhara - are Sikhs with no poiitical inclination - who just want to practice sikhi from a spiritual aspect - then what do you label them as ??

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16 minutes ago, satsangee said:

What if guys with kesh dhara - are Sikhs with no poiitical inclination - who just want to practice sikhi from a spiritual aspect - then what do you label them as ??

Sehajdhari probably. 

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28 minutes ago, satsangee said:

What if guys with kesh dhara - are Sikhs with no poiitical inclination - who just want to practice sikhi from a spiritual aspect - then what do you label them as ??

Sikhs with no political inclination are "Sikhs", and Sikhs with a political inclination are also "Sikhs", UNLESS they are gulaams and chamchay of Pakistan's pro-jihad ISI, which conspires to incite non-Muslim to fight each other over territory, caste, etc. Any Sikh who is pro-ISI is like he pro-Aurangzeb. He automatically excommunicates himself from the panth, because the Sikh Panth doesn't want any gadaar Ram Rai's.

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To be honest, neither Pakistan nor India want Sikhs gain any power. The reason why Pakistan supported the Sikh War of Independence (1980s-1993), was just to destabilize India. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" heard that? ISI wanted to create a client state of Pakistan, which was not the dream of Sant Bhindrawale and other leaders. What Sikhs have to do is to prepare and wait. Sikhs should not align themselves with any of the two states. Soon, there will be a big war. That would leave a power vaccum. That would be a perfect opportunity for the Khalsa to declare independence. For now, just wait, see and prepare.

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2 hours ago, 5akaalsingh said:

To be honest, neither Pakistan nor India want Sikhs gain any power. The reason why Pakistan supported the Sikh War of Independence (1980s-1993), was just to destabilize India. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" heard that? ISI wanted to create a client state of Pakistan, which was not the dream of Sant Bhindrawale and other leaders. What Sikhs have to do is to prepare and wait. Sikhs should not align themselves with any of the two states. Soon, there will be a big war. That would leave a power vaccum. That would be a perfect opportunity for the Khalsa to declare independence. For now, just wait, see and prepare.

Guru Pita ji always emphasised self-rule , self-sufficiency, self-reliance : both dharams hate Guru ji's message as it undermines their central pillars of control , both have given sugand and both have repeatedly broken it why are we so stubborn to learn?? 

Pakistan wants Khalistan because they think they can invade and grab territory for themselves , nothing more or less .

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46 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

Guru Pita ji always emphasised self-rule , self-sufficiency, self-reliance : both dharams hate Guru ji's message as it undermines their central pillars of control , both have given sugand and both have repeatedly broken it why are we so stubborn to learn?? 

Pakistan wants Khalistan because they think they can invade and grab territory for themselves , nothing more or less .

a good example is the bigotry of pakistani muslims towards sikhs in the diaspora especially in the uk. 

I think both faiths want to deliver  us a message: merge with us or die. 

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Just now, 5akaalsingh said:

a good example is the bigotry of pakistani muslims towards sikhs in the diaspora especially in the uk. 

I think both faiths want to deliver  us a message: merge with us or die. 

Well I am not willing to join the zombie collective / hivemind jihadis

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5 hours ago, 5akaalsingh said:

To be honest, neither Pakistan nor India want Sikhs gain any power. The reason why Pakistan supported the Sikh War of Independence (1980s-1993), was just to destabilize India. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" heard that? ISI wanted to create a client state of Pakistan, which was not the dream of Sant Bhindrawale and other leaders. What Sikhs have to do is to prepare and wait. Sikhs should not align themselves with any of the two states. Soon, there will be a big war. That would leave a power vaccum. That would be a perfect opportunity for the Khalsa to declare independence. For now, just wait, see and prepare.

Very nicely said, brother. (y)

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Hindus used to say Sikha de baare bajj gaye 

Now we're proving it with all these fights outside indian gurudwaras . 

Why have we as a kaum become so thick skulled ?? I don't understand ! 

I don't know who is instigating these fights in gurudwaras outside india and why the management of gurudwaras outside india is so craap and anti-sikh !!

I have no idea, but I am reminded of Gyaani Maskeen ji's book on the same topic . I am not able to find it though. He predicted mismanagement of gurudwaras outside india is not good for sikhs.

Now we're seeing results.

It's tempting to blame RSS. That might as well be true as well , but tell me is it fair to blame everything else on others ? We have failed on many fronts , be it RSS, islamists and now christians in punjab. The problem is that we have become a horribly passive and docile kaum ! 

The next time you ask for kirpan rights or dastar rights, the govts of these countries can easily pick evidence on how we're a violent community 

 

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