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FAKE Intelligence provided by R&AW via Russian Soviet KGB Influenced Indira Gandhi to carry out operation blue star in 1984


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14 hours ago, genie said:

Do you have direct evidence that babbar khalsa amoung others had pakistani ISI training? So far I have only read hearsay they did but no one has produced any credible evidence of the case. They did have smuggled in arms from pakistan that is true and that was done at the behest of American CIA and their Pakistani ISI allies against Soviet Union allied India.

Well I think most khalistani militants were always very frank about the fact that they went over the border to train.. It's hardly a secret.. Where did and who did train and arm,.? 

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12 minutes ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Well I think most khalistani militants were always very frank about the fact that they went over the border to train.. It's hardly a secret.. Where did and who did train and arm,.? 

I guess nothing is a secret for Hindus, they know everything.  However, they don't know that Hindus like tytler and sajjan have killed thousands of innocent Sikhs.  Apparently, Hindus can be trained in India to kill Sikhs!

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1 hour ago, acsap said:

I guess nothing is a secret for Hindus, they know everything.  However, they don't know that Hindus like tytler and sajjan have killed thousands of innocent Sikhs.  Apparently, Hindus can be trained in India to kill Sikhs!

What a ridiculous nonsensical statement.. Of absolutely no value and adding nothing to the discussion.. 

The ignorance of some people makes them see enemies everywhere.. 

Firstly the soldiers and police operating in panjab included many who were Sikh.. Kps Gill 

Secondly tytler and sajjan didn't kill thousands of Sikhs, rather they facilited, oversaw and directed the pogroms in which mobs killed Sikhs in Delhi. 

Thirdly what is your point? Even many of the militants themselves have spoken about going to Pakistan and training, bomb making etc.. 

It's not even controversial, I'm not even criticising it from the perspective of revolutionary activism.. 

Do you have a alternative narrative of how those people developed specialised knowledge 

Seriously how incoherent can someone be 

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On 29/05/2017 at 3:41 PM, genie said:

I was reading articles recently regarding how the Russian soviet KGB had deeply penetrated the Indian state from 1950s onwards basically since the time of Nehru. British domestic intelligence agency MI5 also had an office stationed in India since 1950s and has had a close relationship with India since its formation in 1947 but they werent as close as the KGB where.

In the 1950s and 1960s when the Cold War flamed up, both Russia and USA were trying to get countries to align to them in the event of hostilities and for trade purposes. Many countries did align to one or the other, but those that didn't became known as the "non-aligned bloc" and the foremost or leader of this bloc was India. India prided itself on being non-aligned as well as the leader of the bloc. Only in 1971 after Pakistan massacred over a million of it's own citizens (some put it as high as 3 million),in Bengal, forcing India to take action and incurring the dsipleasure of USA did India align itself to USSR.

 

According to "The Blood Telegram" by Gary Bass (which is a must read for anyone interested in geo-politics of yester-year) India was very reluctant to join with the USSR, and only joined after being panicked by the sight of USA warships sailing up the Bay of Bengal. The USA presidency had sided with Pakistan and supplied military hardware to them and were firmly on their side in this conflict. Whilst India never officially joined the war, it was known to everyone that they were supporting the Mukti Bahini. The USA in order to intimidate India had it's warships sail from the Pacific to the Bay of Bengal. It worked and India feared a US attack in support of Pakistan. This drove them to publically align with Russia. Even then there were people in the Indian govt who were just as fearful of the USSR as they were of US. There were of course some who were individually subscribing to the USSR socialist agenda.

 

Personally, I don't think it's true that the KGB had any kind of influence in India prior to the 1970s.

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