Tommy Robinson On Manchester Terrorist Attack

[singh598]

 

[BhForce]

No offense, bro, but could you be bothered to write two sentences as to why we should bother to click on the video? I'm assuming you sat and watched it and found it useful or interesting, so I'd also assume you'd want the maximum no. of people to also watch the video. So how 'bout a short summary of videos when people post them (directed generally, not just you)?

[KhalistanYouth]

Tommy Robinson is against Islam or something of the sort, and he knows the difference between Sikh and Islamic people and says he respects Sikhism that's all I know about him oh and he speaks against the Govt protecting terrorists or something. 

[MisterrSingh]

There's just something... I get suspicious when we're used, however innocuous it may be, to help someone's argument against Muslims. It makes me feel as if we're being flattered for cynical ends. As a community, and more so on an individual basis, we are incredibly susceptible to flattery and praise, which occasionally leads us to undertaking ill advised action, or at least adopting certain unhelpful attitudes. Yet I do think it's important the stark distinction between Sikh and Muslim must be made to the wider public, especially to the average person who assumes a beard and a covered head denote the same ideology. 

Islamic apologists amongst Sikhs, and some Muslims, will always cite the "divide and conquer" mantra, which is laughable in itself due to the mistaken belief that we as two distinct faith groups were ever unified, but to my mind that's another symptom of an interesting issue that's been brought into sharp focus since the Manchester attack whereby it's clear that Muslims (and some traitorous Sikhs) cannot bear to see Sikhs illuminated in a positive light in mainstream society, especially if it serves to highlight the contrast between our two religions and their respective people.

Be very, very wary of those who are quick to decry Sikhs for daring to differentiate themselves from Islam and Muslims. More often than not such behaviour is rooted in a devious enviousness and downright maliciousness. The unspoken subtext on the part of Muslims for not wanting us to be viewed positively is, "If we're being made to look bad, why are Sikhs being singled out for praise? They should be made to suffer for Muslim devilry." That's the mindset we're dealing with here; a vindictive, warped, and malicious desire to see Sikhs tarred with the same brush as them. Don't fall for their games. 

[BhForce]

Here's a summary of this video:

Tommy Robinson reports about the Manchester attack for the Alex Jones Show. Alex Jones reports on Pres. Macron of France saying terror attacks must be accepted as a part of life. Mayor Sadiq Khan of London says the same (it's "part and parcel" of living in a big city), and that he'll set up safe zones. 

EU destroys internal and external borders, and brings in the Islamicists. Alex Jones says they're taking away British rights, whether they are Sikh British, xyz British, abc British (Interesting he mentions Sikhs first.)

Tommy Robinson surveys the Islamophilic policies of the Government (Rotterham, etc.). What's it going to take for the Govt. to do something? 
The Mayor of Greater Manchester works with Islamic radicals.

[MisterrSingh]

17 minutes ago, BhForce said:

Here's a summary of this video:

Tommy Robinson reports about the Manchester attack for the Alex Jones Show. Alex Jones reports on Pres. Macron of France saying terror attacks must be accepted as a part of life. Mayor Sadiq Khan of London says the same (it's "part and parcel" of living in a big city), and that he'll set up safe zones. 

EU destroys internal and external borders, and brings in the Islamicists. Alex Jones says they're taking away British rights, whether they are Sikh British, xyz British, abc British (Interesting he mentions Sikhs first.)

Tommy Robinson surveys the Islamophilic policies of the Government (Rotterham, etc.). What's it going to take for the Govt. to do something? 
The Mayor of Greater Manchester works with Islamic radicals.

Brother, you seem like a man who knows the score and can hazard a guess at the situation in the future by extrapolating current trends if they continue to develop unhindered. I have a question: where do you see the social and political landscape in Britain by 2099 if the Islamic question is not confronted? Will we sleepwalk into a country with a powerful Islamic coterie able to dominate political, economic, legal, and social circles? And what will such a scenario mean for non-Muslim minorities?

[BhForce]

3 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Brother, you seem like a man who knows the score and can hazard a guess at the situation in the future by extrapolating current trends if they continue to develop unhindered. 

Quite humbling words.

3 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

I have a question: where do you see the social and political landscape in Britain by 2099 if the Islamic question is not confronted? Will we sleepwalk into a country with a powerful Islamic coterie able to dominate political, economic, legal, and social circles? And what will such a scenario mean for non-Muslim minorities?

First of all, 

ਤਿਨ ਕਉ ਕਿਆ ਉਪਦੇਸੀਐ ਜਿਨ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਉ ॥੧॥

What can you preach to those who have the Divine Guru Nanak as their Guru? ||1||

6252 ਮਾਝ ਕੀ ਵਾਰ: (ਮ: ੨) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੫੦ ਪੰ. ੧੩ 
 

But since you ask, I will oblige.

I think it's quite clear that European countries are advancing towards Islamic domination at a frightening pace. Angela Merkel's call for a million fake refugees (most are not from Syria) to flood Germany is sheer lunacy and suicide. Britain is advancing towards Islamic domination at a less frightening pace.

Jeremy Corbyn, though thought to be personally a nice fellow, is maddeningly naive and stated that he would impose no immigration targets. If the Theresa May should happen to anger the electorate for some random reason, and Corbyn should happen to get in, the pace would quicken.

Even under current policies, there is one huge demographic fact that looms: There are 1.5 billion Muslims, and all/many/most would like to get to either the US or UK. There are also a billion or so Christians, but many/most? of them are in reasonably safe countries. Even if they are not (like Mexico/Central America) they aren't looking to get into Britain. So right off the bat, you start with a huge head start for immigration to be overwhelmed by Muslims.

Then add to that the tendency for white and other non-Muslim women to have less than 2 babies (minimum required for stable population), plus the fact that Muslims tend to have 4 or so, and you have a steadily increasing percentage of the Muslim population. Muslims have the will to live and dominate; whites seem to have lost it.

That is a terrifying prospect. I'm no white supremacist, but come on, I think we all, if forced to choose, would rather live under a white supremacist government (like erstwhile South Africa) than an Islamic supremacist government. Of course, Britain today is not white-supremacist, though it is white-dominated.

Imagine Britain and France's nuclear weapons and UN permanent security council membership and veto under Muslim control. Imagine France open up immigration to 10 million persons per year: It still wouldn't decrease the non-European Muslim population appreciably, but would massively tilt the scales in favor of Muslims in Europe, since they would have free access to all countries with the EU freedom of movement.

For non-Muslim minorities, I think it would mean something similar to what's happening in "moderate" Muslim countries: In Turkey, Erdogan has very successfully replaced the Turkish secular model with a neo-Ottoman Islamic model. In Indonesia, "moderate Islam" is crumbling, with the Saudis pouring money into preaching their own intolerant version of Islam. This is the Islam of the future of Britain, because they are doing the same thing in the UK:

Hidden Camera in Mosques SHOCKING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEvMmAj4m5A
Saudi curriculum is highly divisive
Saudi Korans (correctly) say peaceful verses have been abrogated. (Note: this video has been removed--probably for telling an inconvenient truth.)

And in Egypt, a country where Nasser laughed at the idea of women wearing veils, vast numbers of women are now doing so. Now, I don't really mind simple social conservatism, but in this case it goes hand-in-hand with regular bombings of Christian churches. Egypt provides a lesson in difficulties faced over the centuries by Christians wanting to repair or rebuild churches, which they are forbidden to do under Sharia.

Note: Please don't think fall for the propaganda about special privileges for Sikhs under Sharia. Those privileges are only for "people of the Book": Christians and Jews. They can't apply to Sikhs because Sikhs come after the Prophet Muhammed, which means, according to Islam, that the Sikhs and their Gurus are usurpers and false prophets, because no prophet is supposed to come after Mohammed.

The version of Islam popular among religious youth in the West is the most extreme, possibly because they have no other identity. The current trajectory seems bleak.
 

[Hammertime007]

Tommy robinson has likened the treatment of Sikhs by moguls to isis in a tweet. He is a good good bloke and speaks up Sikhs unlike people like sunny hundal, and talks about Sikh history unlike people like jagsaw.

[BhForce]

23 minutes ago, Hammertime007 said:

Tommy robinson has likened the treatment of Sikhs by moguls to isis in a tweet. He is a good good bloke and speaks up Sikhs unlike people like sunny hundal, and talks about Sikh history unlike people like jagsaw.

I think Jagsaw is an idealist who believes in the ideals of Sikhism, but is just very naive or myopic on some issues. I appreciate his perspective on some issues, and feel that I could at least sit down with him, if only to do Rehiras.

I don't feel like I could ever sit down with Sunny Hundal. Let's just take a little thing like Rehiras. I think he would probably be afraid of Guru Gobind Singh ji's line:

ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਅਨੇਕ ਕਹੈਂ ਮਤ ਏਕ ਨ ਮਾਨਯੋ ॥

the Puranas and the Quran try to know Thee by the names of Ram and Rahim and talk about you through several stories, but I do not accept them.

ਦਸਮ ਗਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਪੰਨਾ ੬੪੨ ਪੰ. ੧੧

Afraid of being called Islamophobic for reciting that line, that's how crazy this "Islamophobia" business has become.

[MisterrSingh]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/29/manchester-surgeon-the-families-understand-this-attack-does-not-represent-muslims

If so, then those who believe the same lie will be destined to shed tears over the corpses over their loved ones for perpetuity.