Tommy Robinson On Manchester Terrorist Attack

[Ranjeet01]

It seems there has been another incident near a mosque in Newcastle. Another vehicle driven into worshippers on Eid.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/821057/Westgate-road-crash-eid-prayers-Newcastle-Muslim-attack

[MisterrSingh]

That's not the way to do it. In this climate you'll end up sending reasonable people into the arms of the very people who need to be combatted. 

Edit: False Alarm. It wasn't a terrorist. It was a woman who couldn't drive. She mounted the curb; pressed the accelerator instead of the brake (which they seem predisposed to do in these kind of situations; someone should conduct a scientific study to learn why), and injured some people. 

[Ranjeet01]

9 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Surely there's a very threat from all forms of extremists Britain first,  EDL, in Canada Sikh extremists blew up a plane.. Some Sikh groups were put on the UK terror watch list and banned for financing extremists groups in India.. Many of the Islamic extremist terrorist attacks in the UK have been committed by born and bred UK citizens.. I'm not convinced by this idea that border controls and singling out Islamic extremists is particularly useful.. All fascism must be challenged? 

Why are you conflating something that "may" have been done by Sikhs 32 years ago which now seems could have had collusion by intelligence agencies with Islamic Extremism. 

At this current moment in time globally the biggest problem is Islam. If you compare what has happened since 9-11 there is no comparison.

 

[dallysingh101]

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From what I can discern, the panic and concern at contemporary immigration is less to do with the immediate threat of terror (although in the short term it's a genuine issue considering everything that's going down in the Middle East at the moment), but more a long term view to the irreversible impact on demographics and social makeup of a country, especially if we take into account the types of migrants that are flocking here. It's very, very easy to get cynical and insular about this whole problem, but I think we mustn't forget that we're also children of immigrants, and somehow it doesn't quite sit right with me if we're shouting, "Send the buggers back!"

I think the problem is that certain western countries have had their 'foreign policy' ambitions (especially in oil rich muslim lands) curtailed because ground level people are retaliating (quite viciously too).

It's only now that we can clearly see just how these dubious overseas 'adventures' have been central to the economy of this land. I'm thinking: If these people aren't able to pursue their usual path and strategy (of undermining and then controlling useful foreign lands), will they still be able to maintain their so-called 1st-world status and lifestyles?

We know how Conservatives would work in this respect. If things gets dicey, they essentially leave the working classes to the dogs and cut off most funding, hording/siphoning of wealth to themselves. THIS is what creates that 3rd-world feeling in the working and lower classes. This in turn just feeds into Islamic extremism (as well as far right white extremism) by providing hordes of potential recruits with little to lose. So just shutting down immigration wouldn't solve anything when the situation creates people who want to strike back from its own back garden. 

The other thing is simple demographics (as you point out). With all the low birthrates and blindly hedonistic lifestyles pursued by westerners - it's only inevitable that those who have higher birthrates and live lives that are less individualistic as well as focusing on attaining power will prevail. Us just jumping around about this simple, logical reality won't change anything.

The historical reality is that the white west have been engaging in a competition with all other ways of life, with massive success. The only group left that can actually offer any resistance to them now (and are actively doing this!) are muslims. 

What is coming in future is so obvious to see, that only a blind fool couldn't see it.  This is a about a lot more than just immigration. There are plenty of bad guys who are born and raised here. 

[BhForce]

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Why are you conflating something that "may" have been done by Sikhs 32 years ago which now seems could have had collusion by intelligence agencies with Islamic Extremism.

Some people believe the Air India incident was discovered by Canadian intelligence to have been done through RAW, and once they discovered that, they did everything possible (including destroying evidence, for which they were condemned by the judge) to cover it up, since Canada didn't want to jeopardize trade deals with India.

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

At this current moment in time globally the biggest problem is Islam. If you compare what has happened since 9-11 there is no comparison.

Islamic terror attacks in the last 30 days:

"During this time period, there were 158 Islamic attacks in 30 countries, in which 1534 people were killed and 1843 injured. "

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30

 

[BhForce]

2 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

 

Edit: False Alarm. It wasn't a terrorist. It was a woman who couldn't drive. She mounted the curb; pressed the accelerator instead of the brake (which they seem predisposed to do in these kind of situations; someone should conduct a scientific study to learn why), and injured some people. 

Context is very important: the driver of the vehicle was ... a middle aged white guy member of EDL? 

No, actually, the driver was a 42 year old Muslim woman!

Btw, I wonder if you remember when there were a bunch of accidents of Toyota cars where people claimed the car was suddenly accelerating when they desired to brake. Some people speculated that they were actually hitting the accelerator mistakenly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_unintended_acceleration

 

[jkvlondon]

12 hours ago, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Surely there's a very threat from all forms of extremists Britain first,  EDL, in Canada Sikh extremists blew up a plane.. Some Sikh groups were put on the UK terror watch list and banned for financing extremists groups in India.. Many of the Islamic extremist terrorist attacks in the UK have been committed by born and bred UK citizens.. I'm not convinced by this idea that border controls and singling out Islamic extremists is particularly useful.. All fascism must be challenged? 

the Air India bombing was an Indian Intelligence operation to defame sikhs worldwide

 

[muscleman]

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[Sukhvirk1976]

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

[acsap]

On 6/24/2017 at 6:31 PM, Sukhvirk1976 said:

Surely there's a very threat from all forms of extremists Britain first,  EDL, in Canada Sikh extremists blew up a plane.. Some Sikh groups were put on the UK terror watch list and banned for financing extremists groups in India.. Many of the Islamic extremist terrorist attacks in the UK have been committed by born and bred UK citizens.. I'm not convinced by this idea that border controls and singling out Islamic extremists is particularly useful.. All fascism must be challenged? 

You are the same Hindu dude who think Hindu extremists are just fine. Untill and unless, Hindu terrorists like tytler and sajjan are convicted with all the Hindus who took part in Sikh Genocide, please don't comment on other extremists.